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🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Marty sits down with Chris Drzyzga, a commercial real estate professional and Bitcoiner, to discuss the structural crisis facing the commercial real estate industry and how Bitcoin integration—through treasury strategies, dual-collateralized loans, mining operations, and technology—can help property owners navigate monetary debasement and obsolete inventory.
Crhis's Twitter: https://x.com/ChrisDrz
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| 0:00.0 | Chris, good morning. |
| 0:08.6 | You've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free. |
| 0:12.2 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:18.1 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:20.1 | I believe that in a world where central |
| 0:22.8 | bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of |
| 0:27.5 | fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:33.6 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:38.0 | Chris, good morning to you on the West Coast, early afternoon for me. |
| 0:42.2 | How are you? |
| 0:43.4 | I'm doing very well, morning. |
| 0:44.7 | How are you doing? |
| 0:46.0 | Doing well. |
| 0:46.8 | I'm excited for this conversation. |
| 0:48.7 | I mean, we've been talking about the intersection of real estate and Bitcoin for a few years now. |
| 0:54.6 | Right before we hit record, you mentioned Leon Wonkham. |
| 0:57.3 | We've had Andrew Hones on the show and a few others to talk about this. |
| 1:02.3 | And recently we've had some real estate experts that really aren't focused on Bitcoin |
| 1:07.4 | that have come on. |
| 1:08.6 | So I think this is going to be a good continuation, |
| 1:17.0 | conversation, and you're someone in the real estate industry in California, |
| 1:23.6 | specifically, that has decided to come out and sort of ring the alarm bells in August, |
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