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Grumpy old geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason

de Philippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and

who's to blame.

Welcome to grumpy old geeks, I'm Jason de Philipo. And I'm Brian Shellmeister.

Brian's self-driving cars have actually become a hit in San Francisco.

After all of our bitchet and convection and Monin,

they've actually finally found their stride.

Can you believe it or not?

I'm a little surprised. I mean it's taken a long time. We were told this was coming when we started this

podcast and we said. Our timeline matched.

Yeah, not too bad.

Yeah, I've been hearing a lot of raving about it, not without problems.

It's not a fully realized technology yet.

There's still issues here and there and everywhere, but from what I've heard, from both people we know, people I know, and obviously, you know, the media is that it's actually doing pretty well up there.

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