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671. I Caught Savile. Now I'm Coming For His BBC Cronies - Mark Williams-Thomas

heretics. | andrew gold

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.31.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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The investigator whose ITV documentary helped expose Jimmy Savile joins Andrew Gold to reveal what happened behind the scenes. Mark Williams-Thomas discusses the BBC’s institutional failures, the figures he believes still face unanswered questions, and why he remains determined to uncover the full truth. Support my guest: https://www.youtube.com/user/MWT579 https://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm going to ask you if it's this person.

0:32.3

I'm going to write it and see away from the cameras.

0:36.1

Okay, so that name comes up a lot.

0:37.1

Is an icon, isn't it? Are there people now, big celebrities and TV channels, who you are absolutely sure are?

0:41.3

There are people in broadcast media, high profile people in broadcast media, I've got lists of names of people.

0:48.3

So we did the Jimmy Saville program.

0:50.3

So we were taking on a true icon of British television.

0:53.3

There was a lot of

0:54.5

criticism about me. How do they really think he can take Saville on? I said, okay, and you are on the board of the BBC, aren't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, you know, you failed. Remember him sitting there, swallowing deep. I've had petrol bombs sent to me. I've had child abuse material sent to me, I've had people threatened to take my life, I've hit the bottom.

1:11.0

A lot of that was around my exposure to me, I've had people threatened to take my life. I've hit the bottom.

1:10.9

A lot of that was around my exposure to work, my exposure to the Saville stuff.

1:15.9

How did he gain that access to Royals, for example?

1:18.9

Well, the police officers utterly failed.

1:20.9

They just agreed it with him and when he needed to do it at Stoke Manor.

1:23.7

What is a hospital?

1:25.7

Okay, he's got a room there, but what, right? This is the biggest problem.

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