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What's up, dude? How are you?

Good, Joe. How are you?

Very good.

Good to see you.

For folks who don't know the story, Michael, as he prefers to be discussed, talked to as directed as referred to as you a cop in Baltimore and you put a string of tweets that I read that was on Huffington Post.

And that's when I got interested in this whole story because it's

very rare that someone who's a cop comes out and tells about all the shit that

they experience. I have friends that are cops and I know there's a lot of good cops out there.

Just like there's good everything. You know, there's a you know Sam Harris and Dan Carlin just did a podcast recently together.

It's a really excellent podcast and one of the things they were talking about, they were talking

about people in power, people that were, are politicians that they,

there's a whole spectrum spectrum you get great people people

people that are genuinely trying to do good and you also get psychopaths.

It seems like you ran into a lot of fucking psychopaths.

How long were you a cop for?

I was a cop for 11 years.

You look like you're 20.

Thanks.

How's that possible? I don't know.

Good genetics. Good genetics and I guess you did the stress didn't. It didn't really. Really? Really?

Really? How did it not? My idea of what an officer should be was to be more robocopish like where I took my emotions out of the

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