This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altiger show.

So several years ago, I did the first of a couple of podcasts I did with Gary Kusprov,

probably the best chess player in history.

He was the world champion.

He was the world chess champion for 20 years.

And subsequently after that, Gary and I have become friends.

We've hung out a little bit and I've got to know him a lot better.

He's a very, very good guy.

He cares about, you know, and helps run organizations devoted to human rights and humanitarian issues

and very, very good, complex person, not just defined by his chess, but also by his global

activism around the world.

And I'm pleased that I've gotten to know him.

So I want to tell some stories and then actually going to re-release the episode I did several

years ago because it's a evergreen sort of timeless episode about chess.

Chess has gotten very popular lately because of the TV show The Queen's Gambit.

And I just want to tell a little of my story of chess for a second, which is that I kind

of started playing late for someone who eventually becomes, you know, like I'm currently ranked

a chess master, which sounds very strong and impressive.

And I guess is, but you always compare yourself to, I always tend to compare myself with people

better.

So there's a lot of players who are grandmasters or international masters.

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