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670: Brad and Ian Frost on Their New Design Tokens Course

ShopTalk

ShopTalk

Technology

4.8625 Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Show DescriptionBrad and Ian stop by to chat about their new course, The Complete Guide to Design Tokens, what happens if you don't use design tokens on projects, what the ideal outcome is for building and designing with design tokens, how many colors is enough, what about refactoring, and does Figma or code win the argument? (Brad and Ian did give us a 20% discount code for the course: SHOPTALKSHOWISAWESOME) Listen on Website →GuestsBrad FrostGuest's Main URL • Guest's SocialDesign system consultant, web designer, speaker, writer, musician, and artist located in beautiful Pittsburgh, PA. Ian FrostGuest's Main URL • Guest's SocialFront-end architect, technical lead, and consultant who loves to help level up developers. Links Design Tokens Course with Brad Frost and Ian Frost Dotdash Meredith - America's Largest Digital & Print Publisher Nord Design System React Aria Style Dictionary | Style Dictionary Sponsors

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0:00.0

Hey there.

0:17.0

Good.

0:18.0

Good.

0:19.0

Hey there, Shopping Meenax. You're listening to another episode of the Shop Talk show.

0:25.3

This week, Token Therapy with me, Dave Rupert and Chris Coyer.

0:29.8

Hey, Chris, who got in the studio?

0:31.4

Chris won't fix Coyer.

0:33.1

That's the new tagline, yeah.

0:35.3

My new tag in the middle.

0:36.7

Yeah, you can tell because I set a border radius around it and a different background color.

0:41.6

That's the official design look of a tag.

0:45.5

Yeah.

0:45.8

Maybe a border.

0:47.4

We have the Frosts here today.

0:49.3

Mr. Brad Frost, how you doing, Brad?

0:51.1

Hey, great.

0:52.0

Thanks for having us.

0:53.2

Brad's better looking brother as he introduces himself publicly on stage.

0:57.0

Ian Frost, how you doing, Ian?

0:58.6

Hey, good.

0:59.3

How are you?

1:00.0

Good.

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