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The History of the Christian Church

67-No Dunce Here

The History of the Christian Church

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 14 December 2014

⏱️ 12 minutes

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This episode of CS is titled, “No Dunce Here.”The Franciscans had an answer to the Dominican Scholastic we looked at in the previous episode. In fact, Aquinas’ Franciscan counterpart lived at the same time. His name was John Bonaventure.Born in Tuscany in 1221 as John Fidanza, he became known as Bonaventura when he had a miraculous recovery from a grave illness as a child of four. Upon regaining his health, his mother announced, “Bonaventura = Good fortune” and the name stuck.While Aquinas was predominantly a theologian, Bonaventure was both theologian and accomplished administrator in the affairs of the Franciscans. Where Thomas was precise but dry, John was a mystic given to great eloquence. If Aquinas was prose, Bonaventure was poetry.Bonaventure joined the Franciscans and immediately excelled in his studies. He spent 3 years in Paris studying under the Scholastic scholar Alexander of Hales. Alexander paid his pupil a huge compliment when he said that in Bonaventure, “Adam seems not to have sinned.”Finishing his studies in Paris, he stayed to teach, filling the spot of John of Parma when he took on the leadership of the Franciscans. He was only 26. Anyone would have been in over their head at that age since Bonaventure became the leader of the Franciscans when they ere being split by the fracture we talked about in an earlier episode. He took a middle position between the two parties and was able to negotiate an uneasy peace. It was a brutally hard assignment, but Bonaventure pulled it off with aplomb and earned the title of 2nd founder of the order.The entire idea of mendicancy came under assault during his term at the helm of the Franciscans. He penned a tract that silenced the opposition and reinforced support for the Mendicants.At the direction of the first Franciscan General Council at Narbonne in 1260, he wrote the Legend of Francis, the authoritative Franciscan account of the Order’s founder.In 1273, he was made cardinal of Albano, Italy. He died in Lyons while attending a Church council in 1274. The Pope performed extreme unction for him and his funeral was attended by dignitaries from all over the Christian world. He was declared a “Doctor of the Church” in 1587, one of the highest honors the Roman Church can bestow.Dante, a fierce critic of sham religion, gave Bonaventure great honor by placing him beside Thomas Aquinas.These two will always be considered by students of history side by side. One historian of mediaeval theology calls them the illuminating stars on the horizon of the 13th C. Aquinas had the sharper mind, but Bonaventure the warmer heart. Maybe this is why each joined their respective orders; Thomas the Dominicans and John the Franciscans.Bonaventura enjoyed great popularity as a preacher. Being a poet, his sermons were far more eloquent than his peers.When Bonaventure wrote, like Aquinas, he turned his mind to theology and provided much to the cleaning up of the thoughts of the day. To give an idea of what kinds of things the Scholastics wrestled with, here are some of the topics Bonaventure weighed in on. . . .The Trinity, creation, sin, the Incarnation, grace, the Holy Spirit, sacraments, and the Afterlife. Having dealt with these basic topics he engaged a whole host of other subjects more popular to discuss. Things like . . .Could God have made a better world? Could He have made it sooner than He did? Can an angel be in several places at the same time? Can several angels be at the same time in the same place? At the moment of his creation was Lucifer corrupt?Did he belong to the order of angels?Is there a hierarchy among the fallen angels? Do demons have foreknowledge of contingent events?Bonaventure discussed whether or not sexual intercourse took place before the Fall, whether or not before the Fall men and women was equal, did Adam or Eve sin more grievously by eating the forbidden fruit.With such w

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0:00.0

Welcome to the history of the Christian Church, Season 1 with Lance Rolston.

0:16.3

This episode of Communia Sanctoran is titled No Dunce Here.

0:21.4

The Franciscans had an answer to the Dominican Scholastic that we looked at in the previous episode.

0:27.4

In fact, Aquinas' Franciscan counterpart lived at the same time.

0:31.7

His name was John Bonaventure.

0:34.5

Born in Tuscany in 1221 as John Fianza, he became known as Bonaventura when he had a

0:41.5

miraculous recovery from a grave illness as a child of only four. Upon regaining his health,

0:47.5

his mother announced Bonaventura, good fortune, and the name stuck. While Aquinas was

0:54.0

predominantly a theologian, Bonaventura

0:56.7

was both theologian and accomplished administrator in the affairs of the Franciscans. Where Thomas

1:02.6

was precise but dry, John was a mystic given to great eloquence. If Aquinas was prose, Bonaventura, well, he was poetry. Bonaventure

1:14.4

joined the Franciscans and immediately excelled in his studies. He spent three years in

1:19.5

Paris studying under the scholastic scholar Alexander of Hales. Alexander paid his pupil a huge

1:25.8

compliment when he said that in Bonaventure adam seems not to have sinned finishing his studies in paris he stayed to teach filling the spot of jonaparma when he took on the leadership of the franciscans he was only twenty-six

1:41.2

now anyone would have been in over their head at that age since Bonaventure became the leader

1:45.5

of the Franciscans when they were being split by the fracture that we talked about in an

1:50.0

earlier episode.

1:52.0

He took a middle position between the two parties and was able to negotiate an uneasy piece.

1:57.5

It was a brutally hard assignment, but Bonaventure pulled it off with a plumb and earned the title of the second founder of the order.

2:06.0

The entire idea of mendicancy came under assault during his term at the helm of the Franciscans.

2:13.5

He penned a track that silenced the opposition and reinforced support for the mendicants at the direction of the first franciscan general council at narbonne in twelve sixty he wrote the legend of francis the authoritative franciscan account of the orders founder

2:29.5

in twelve seventy three he was made cardinal of alb, Italy. He died in Lyon while attending a church council

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