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it was incredible you know it's like your head exploded seeing what was really there And now here's your host, Bradley Steve. Just one person at just one time. Right. Okay, everybody, here we go again. This is it. This is other people. This is digitally enhanced interrogation. This is what your ears are for. My guest today is Chloe Caldwell. She's the author of a new essay collection called Legs Get Lead

Astray. It is available now from Future Tense Books, which is a fabulous indie imprint run by

Kevin Samsell up in Portland, Oregon. I had a lot of fun talking with Chloe about a variety of

different things, and you'll be able to hear our conversation in its entirety in just a moment.

But before we get started, I want to briefly discuss the time I got spanked with a riding

crop in the desert.

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