MacPowell users episode 669 drowning out the noise with Charlie Chapman.

Hello everyone, this is David Sparks. I am joined as always by Steven Hackett. Hey, Steven.

Hey, David, how are you?

I'm doing great, Steven, and we have guests with us today. Welcome to Show Charlie Chapman.

Hey, how's it going?

Good. Charlie is the developer of Stephen and I's very favorite noise app, dark noise,

and also just a swell guy, and we wanted to talk to Charlie about how he's using his Mac and

ways up to and development of dark noise. We got a lot to cover today, Charlie.

Yeah, I'm very, very excited to be here. This is podcast I've been listening to for a very long time

on a network that I've been listening to for a very long time. So it's kind of, I don't know,

like a dream come true kind of situation. So I'm excited to be here.

That's awesome. Well, we are both very eager to talk to you about your app. I know I use it daily.

So we have stuff to talk about here. But before so, a little bit of housekeeping,

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It's 20% off. We only do this once a year. Not much time left. Get in there and get signed up.

Yeah. And today on more power users, I want to talk about my two-screen experiment. So

the listeners may remember that David tried this a while back and then went back to just one

display plus an iPad. I am trying the dual display thing on my Mac for the first time in a long time.

So I thought I could talk about that a little bit. Yeah. And I think listeners should also

remember back when I was using actually three displays. I had a big one and two on each side,

my ears, Stephen mocked me and made fun of me and hurt my feelings, frankly. And now he's doing

it. One day, he just sent me a picture of his extra screen next to his Mac. And I was thinking,

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