Wab mabbleum bah bah bah bah bah bahhahhahhahhah from W b e cah cahah caho chakgo From W be EZ Chicago and PRX, this is sound opinions. I'm Jim De Regattis.

And I'm Greg Kot. This week, Dessa joins us in front of an audience.

Desa is a poet, author, and hip-hop artist who is as interested in scientific theory as she is in lyrics.

I don't want to create the impression that like,'m a wrapping Bill Nye because I'm not.

But I feel like music and science, you know, are both lenses to understand and frame a problem.

You know, they're both like outlets through which you can route curiosity.

Plus we'll review Egypt Station, the 17th solo album from Sir Paul McCartney, and Greg has a song that he can't live without

to add to the Desert Island Jukebox. That's all coming up on sound opinions.

You are listening to sound opinions and later in the show we're going to talk

about Paul McCartney's new album his first in five years I mean McCartney at 76 is

still touring like a 23 year old rocker and relentlessly doing the promo hype circuit all over the place

and first studio album in five years from McCartney but that's later in the show.

First Dessa That was a little bit.

A little bit.

That was a little bit.

That was a little bit of the song The Bullpen by our guest this week, Dessa.

Me just say she's a rapper really undersells her because she's also a singer, a a writer a renaissance woman in the truest sense

she's released four albums that showcase her signature lyrics

with the Doomtree hip-hop collective out of Minneapolis

an artist-run label that really does put a premium on lyrics.

Her latest album is called Chime.

But if that isn't enough, she's also an author.

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