668. The Spiritual Nature of Creative Work: Rituals, Resistance, & the Muse w/ Steven Pressfield
The Life Stylist
Luke Storey
4.7 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
There’s a hidden force that is hurting your creative work.
Steven Pressfield is the author behind The War of Art, Gates of Fire, and The Legend of Bagger Vance. After spending the past few years writing my own first book, I had a lot of questions for him about what actually gets in the way of creative work.
In this episode, we talk about the difference between writing for ego and writing in service of something larger. I told him about the fear of success that crept in once my manuscript got close to being done, the dread of asking people for endorsements, and the strange grief of finishing a project you've lived inside for years.
He shared things I didn't expect. The War of Art was a 10-year slow burn. He's been "terrified every minute" of his career and never gave in. He believes resistance is a real force with one job: to stop you. And he writes ninety pages into his next book before the current one ships.
Read: The Arcadian: A Novel by Steven Pressfield: https://amzn.to/4ufrFhS
You'll learn:
[00:00] Introduction
[14:49] Two kinds of loneliness, and how spiritual grounding resolves both
[20:29] Why writing alone doesn't feel lonely, and how the muse shows up in the creative space
[34:54] Resistance, shadow careers, and addiction as misrouted creativity
[56:34] Steven’s pre-writing ritual: invoking the muse and checking ego at the door
[1:04:45] Why over-editing is a form of resistance, and how to know when a work is done
[1:07:49] Building a body of work instead of betting everything on one book
[1:09:41] Creative discipline: why Steven distrusts breaks and why the muse likes knowing where to find you
[1:14:10] Losing his home in the Malibu fire: detachment, grief, and what the goddess still has to offer
[1:22:42] The Arcadian: karma, reincarnation, and whether the universe has a mechanism for justice
Resources Mentioned:
Read: A Horse Named Lonesome: Tales and Teachings to Reclaim Connection, Transcend Separation, and Discover the Divine Within by Luke Storey | Book
Read: Govt Cheese: A Memoir by Steven Pressfield | Book
Read: Animal Power: 100 Animals to Energize Your Life and Awaken Your Soul by Alyson Charles | Book
Read: The War of Art: Break Through the Blocks and Win Your Inner Creative Battles by Steven Pressfield | Book
Read: The Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield | Book
Read: The Legend of Bagger Vance: A Novel of Golf and the Game of Life by Steven Pressfield | Book
The Joe Rogan Experience #1901 – Steven Pressfield | Podcast
Oprah's Super Soul #164 – Steven Pressfield: Unlock Your Creative Genius | Podcast
Read: The Odyssey by Homer and T. E. Lawrence | Book
Read: Lawrence of Arabia: The Authorized Biography of T.E. Lawrence by Jeremy Wilson | Book
Full show notes at lukestorey.com/pressfield2
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | All right, Steve, we get to finally sit down face to be. |
| 0:08.5 | Yeah, yeah, finally happened. |
| 0:10.0 | I'm so excited. |
| 0:11.0 | You were such a big benchmark for me in terms of the podcast we did, you know, remotely online. |
| 0:18.0 | And I'm always happy to do those, but it's just such a more rich experience for me to sit down. |
| 0:23.6 | Yeah, it's great to be together, yeah. |
| 0:25.6 | Yeah. |
| 0:26.6 | And right now, I think it's especially meaningful to me having spent the past couple of years writing a book. |
| 0:31.6 | As I was telling you earlier, I have a newfound level of respect for authors. |
| 0:39.2 | It's like people, you know, they come sit on the podcast, |
| 0:41.2 | we have their books sitting here, |
| 0:42.2 | we have your newest book, the Arcadian sitting here, |
| 0:44.4 | and I go, that's great, he wrote a book, whatever, you know. |
| 0:47.2 | But now that I know, at least from my experience, |
| 0:49.7 | what it takes, I have a sense of awe and respect |
| 0:53.0 | for people that have done it consistently and done it successfully as you have. Let me interview you a little bit, Luke. Hey, whatever you want to do, man. And we can always edit stuff out, right? Let me just ask you. I never edit anything out, by the way. Oh, you don't. Okay. I think once someone asked me, they said something political or something, they said, hey, can you take that out? But I would leave everything in. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, let me ask you about your book that you just wrote. What was the genesis of it? I'm really curious. What made you, have you wanted to do this for years and years? What was a genesis? You know, it's funny, I actually wrote about the genesis of the book in the book. After I had |
| 1:31.6 | a podcast for a number of years and was successful in doing that, and I was doing a lot of public |
| 1:38.0 | speaking and things like that and kind of building my personal brand and getting myself out |
| 1:41.7 | there. As I was telling you before, I worked in the fashion |
| 1:45.3 | industry before. I was a musician. I did a lot of different things, but as I got more committed to |
| 1:51.1 | my spiritual path, there was an incongruence between my career and my personal life. So I was living in |
| 1:58.6 | LA and this double life. I'm going to meditation retreats and doing yoga, |
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