668: Pope Donald, Human Flourishing, & the Pastor’s Wife with Beth Allison Barr
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2025
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Summary
The White House is facing backlash for posting an AI image of Donald Trump as the Pope. Was it a careless joke or a calculated distraction? The most extensive study of its kind finds that the world’s largest Muslim country far outranks the United States in human flourishing, and also explains why secular elites are discovering a new respect for religion. But is there more than a practical purpose behind faith? Historian Beth Allison Barr is back to discuss her latest book, “Becoming the Pastor’s Wife.” She says expectations for ministry spouses aren’t rooted in Scripture but in a reaction to feminism in the late 20th century, and Barr explains how marriage replaced ordination as the way for women to serve the church. Also this week—listener questions, and a whole new look for Holy Post Media.
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2:40 - Theme Song
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15:10 - Comparing two recent interviews: Gillibrand and Kasich
28:10 - Pope Donald?
34:24 - Human Flourishing Study in Indonesia!
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56:50 - Interview
1:02:24 - Danver’s Statement
1:09:09 - Rooted in America, not Scripture
1:19:19 - Honoring Responsibility
1:32:55 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. The White House is facing a backlash for posting an AI image of Donald |
| 0:05.4 | Trump as the Pope. Was it a careless joke or a calculated distraction? Then the most extensive |
| 0:11.8 | study of its kind is found that the world's largest Muslim country far outranks the United |
| 0:17.0 | States in human flourishing. And it may also explain why secular elites are discovering a new respect for religion, but |
| 0:24.3 | is there more than a practical purpose behind faith? |
| 0:27.8 | Then I'm joined by Beth Allison Barr to look at her new book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife. |
| 0:33.4 | She says expectations for ministry spouses aren't really rooted in the Bible, but in a reaction |
| 0:38.7 | to feminism in the late 20th century. |
| 0:41.6 | And Barr explains how marriage replaced ordination as the way for women to serve the church. |
| 0:47.1 | Also this week, we've got listener questions and a whole new look for Holy Post media. |
| 0:52.8 | As always, there's a lot happening for subscribers to Holy Post |
| 0:55.7 | Plus. We now post new videos, podcasts, and resources five days a week. And this week, we've got a |
| 1:02.7 | bonus interview with Beth Allison Barr that you're not going to want to miss. And if you're in the |
| 1:07.3 | Washington, D.C. area, don't forget about our upcoming event with Caitlin |
| 1:11.4 | Chess and Duke Kwan on May 16th. Those tickets are now available at holypost.com |
| 1:17.5 | slash events. And holypost.com is where you can also sign up for Holy Post Plus and check out |
| 1:23.9 | our updated merch store. Okay, here is episode 668. |
| 1:29.3 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. |
| 1:32.1 | I am Phil. |
| 1:34.2 | I'm here with Sky. |
| 1:36.4 | Hi. |
| 1:37.8 | Hi, Sky. |
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