nobody knows.

All right, we're live, John Ronson.

How are you?

Hey, how are you?

Thanks for doing this, ma'am.

I'm glad.

I can't tell you the number of people have said you should do Joe Rogan.

The number of people have said,

I've got Joe Rogan's talking about

psychopaths you have to come on well I'm friends with Alex Jones and

Alex Jones told me many many many years ago that they're burning effigies in Bohemian Grove they're worshipping

Molik the owl god well I went to Bohemian Grove with Alex Jones oh that's that's

about that's like going to Disneyland with Mickey Mouse.

Yeah, it was kind of my idea.

I sometimes feel like the kind of sign like, I mean this isn't strictly speaking to, but I kind of sometimes feel a little bit like Alex Jones is Simon Cowell because before, because this is like way back in the mid to late 90s, when he was like really famous in Austin, but kind of not that well known outside.

And I was working with this Virginia. but kind of not that well known outside. Right.

And I was working with this producer, John Sergeant.

Basically, we noticed something which was that a lot of people on the fringes

that Islamic fundamentalist and neo-Nazis and militia people

were all had this one thing in common which is they were all conspiracy theorists.

They all believed in the evil power of Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove.

So I thought it would be good to try and infiltrate those places.

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