668: Jake Archibald on Native HTML Includes

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4.8 • 625 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Show DescriptionJake Archibald joins us to discuss HTML includes, potential solutions, and the implications of introducing such a feature. We talk about security concerns, performance implications, and community feedback regarding HTML imports. Listen on Website →GuestsJake ArchibaldGuest's Main URL • Guest's SocialEngineer at Shopify. Once swam to the end of an infinity pool. Links Off The Main Thread podcast blink-dev - Google Groups Sponsors

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0:00.0	Hey there, shopin'clock
0:03.0	Hey there, Shopping Manix.
0:21.3	You're listening to another episode of the Shop Talk show.
0:23.8	I'm Dave Rupert with me, Chris Coyer.
0:25.2	Hey, Chris, who do we have in the studio today?
0:27.2	Oh, right to it, Dave.
0:28.4	I love your brevity.
0:29.7	Who are we including in the studio today?
0:35.0	I like that.
0:36.5	Yeah, I'm going to import Jake. archibald.html into this podcast.
0:42.7	Hello, hello, hello. Yeah, Jake is on. It's awesome. I would love to have Jake on anytime, but I have, we have him under the best possible circumstances, which is perhaps you'll all recall, not so long ago in the past, when I published
0:56.7	a clickbait kind of article, because I was, I am genuinely curious about the answer to this. I've
1:02.6	wondered about this pretty much my entire career, and I'll do the setup for it in this way.
1:09.2	CSS is a language that can import itself.
1:11.8	Use the import keyword.
1:13.0	And then you can have two CSS files,
1:15.2	and they smash together as far as the browser is concerned.
1:17.7	Or maybe it treats them as separate files.
1:19.5	But you link up one of them and you get two of them.
1:24.3	JavaScript can do the same thing,
1:25.7	perhaps only somewhat recently with ESM, I guess,
1:30.4	you know, within the import keyword. JavaScript is a language that can import itself.
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