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668. Do Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny Have Blood on Their Hands?

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🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

As one researcher told us: “We’ve engineered a world where the most distracting device ever made is also the one we use to listen to music in the car." A new study tries to measure the cost.

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Steven Dubner with a quick announcement.

0:07.0

We've just published an audiobook called Making Messiah, how Handel got his mojo back and created a masterpiece.

0:14.0

The publisher is Simon & Schuster, and the audiobook is adapted from our recent Freakonomics radio series

0:20.0

about the history, legacy, and

0:21.7

economics of George Fuderick Handel's Messiah. You can buy Making Messiah now wherever you get

0:27.7

your audiobooks. For more information, go to making messiah.com.

0:45.6

Over the years, we've made a bunch of Freakonomics Radio episodes about the risk that comes with an activity that billions of us do every day.

0:56.0

Get in a car. Those risks have fallen over time, but because more people drive, more miles than ever, the number of deaths from traffic crashes is very high, more than a million people per year globally. And that's just deaths. There are many

1:01.7

more injuries and the financial costs are massive. Traffic deaths are more likely in low-income

1:08.6

countries, but among high-income countries, the U.S. is an outlier with more than 40,000 deaths a year.

1:15.6

That works out to roughly one death by car crash every 13 minutes in the U.S. Why so many? Well, it's complicated.

1:24.6

Here's what we heard in an episode we published a few years ago called

1:27.9

Why is the U.S. so good at killing pedestrians?

1:31.8

The cars we're driving are bigger, patter, faster.

1:34.9

The problem of distraction has gotten much worse.

1:38.0

In the United States, we've decided that car movement is really the supreme consideration when it comes to designing our streets.

1:46.7

And in another episode we made called Why is Flying Safer than Driving, we learned how the aviation

1:53.7

industry devoted itself to safety. If you go back 30 or 40 years, air crashes were not uncommon.

2:05.6

It was something the industry spent an enormous amount of time, collaborating together, sharing information, sharing learnings, working closely with the FAA to understand best practices

2:12.6

and how we could have an open book with our regulator.

2:15.6

And in our last couple episodes, our friends at the Search Engine podcast looked at the

2:20.5

contested future of driverless cars.

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