665: Can Democrats Win Back Religious Voters? with Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 16 April 2025
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary
It’s Holy Week, and an article in the New York Times argues that Palm Sunday wasn’t a worship procession; it was a protest march. With that theme in mind, Christians held peaceful rallies over the weekend in Philadelphia and San Diego to protest inhumane immigration enforcement policies, including the order allowing government agents into churches during worship gatherings to arrest people. Skye talks to Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) about how her faith informs her politics, what lessons the Democrats have learned from their losses in 2024, and why more religious Americans view her party’s brand as “toxic.” Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn then debrief the interview and discuss whether the Democrats’ struggle is just messaging or something deeper. Also this week: the problem with purple.
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3:35 - Theme Song
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7:15 - Purple Isn't Real?
17:40 - Christians Protesting ICE
25:05 - Was Palm Sunday a Protest?
34:50 - Why’re We Interviewing a Senator?
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38:05 - Interview
43:50 - Is the Republican Party Faith-Driven?
53:05 - Is the Democratic Brand Toxic?
1:10:30 - Debrief
1:16:20 - Trump Administration Holy Week Statement
1:28:45 - End Credits
Links from News Segment:
World Relief:
https://www.worldrelief.com/advocate
Purple Isn’t Real!
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a64393667/purple-is-fake/
Faith Groups Protest Ice:
Palm Sunday was a Protest, Not a Procession:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/opinion/palm-sunday-protest.html?searchResultPosition=5
White House Presidential Holy Week Message
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/presidential-message-on-holy-week-2025/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. It's Holy Week and an article in the New York Times argues that |
| 0:04.8 | Palm Sunday wasn't a worship procession, it was a protest march. With that theme, Christians |
| 0:10.9 | held peaceful protests over the weekend in both Philadelphia and San Diego to draw attention |
| 0:15.8 | to the inhumane immigration enforcement policies of the Trump administration, |
| 0:20.4 | including the order allowing |
| 0:21.7 | government agents into churches during worship gatherings to arrest people. |
| 0:26.4 | Then I talked to Senator Kirsten Gillibrand from New York about how her faith informs her politics, |
| 0:31.8 | what lessons the Democrats have learned from their losses in 2024, and why more religious |
| 0:37.1 | Americans view her party as particularly |
| 0:40.1 | toxic to faith. |
| 0:42.2 | Then Phil joins me and Caitlin to debrief the interview with Senator Gillibrand and discuss whether |
| 0:46.9 | the Democrat's struggle is just messaging or something deeper. |
| 0:51.4 | Also this week, The Problem with Purple. Hey, Holy Posters, before we get started a few |
| 0:56.5 | important announcements this week. First, tickets for our next Holy Post event are now available. |
| 1:02.7 | You can join me and journalist Tim Alberta in Detroit on Saturday, May 3rd. Tim has covered |
| 1:08.9 | multiple campaigns and White Houses. His access to Washington Insiders |
| 1:13.0 | is legendary, and his latest book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory examined what |
| 1:18.2 | happened to evangelicals during the last decade of MAGA. It's going to be a fantastic evening. |
| 1:23.4 | Don't miss out. Go get your tickets today at holypost.com slash events. And as always, we have |
| 1:30.0 | loads of new stuff for Holy Post Plus. In fact, we're posting new shows, series, and resources |
| 1:35.6 | five days a week, including Michael Bird's series between Christ and Caesar, about persecuted |
| 1:41.1 | Christians around the world, and Esau McCauley's series, 66 verses to explain |
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