Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, in this episode I'm going to look at a portion of Alex O'Connor's reply

to Ben Shapiro's case against atheism.

So I'm not going to go through the whole video because there's only one part of Alex's

reply I was really interested in.

So in one part Ben Shapiro shares the Catholic philosopher Ed Fasers' argument from motion

for the existence of God, which is based on Aquinas' first way.

Now I've shared the argument from motion in a previous debate with Alex, though Alex

didn't give a reply to the argument in the debate.

So I was really excited to see what he would say about it in this video.

So first I'm going to play Ben Shapiro summarizing the argument, then I'll go into Alex's

objections.

So I do commend Alex because he does a good job in his reply, explaining the argument

from motion in detail because Shapiro is actually pretty brief about it.

So here's how Ben Shapiro describes the argument.

Turns out there are a bevy of logically consistent arguments offered on behalf of God.

Take for example the first clause proof, advanced by Aristotle as refined by Thomas Aquinas.

Edward Faeser lays out the argument in his book, Five Proofs of the Existence of God.

The argument goes something like this.

First, change exists in the world, but all change is the actualization of a potential

for that change.

So if something is changing it's because there was a potential for that change in the

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