662: Why Nazi Comparisons Don't Help & Hosting Cultural Conversations and Lee C. Camp
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 26 March 2025
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Summary
It’s become popular to compare our current political moment with the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany in the 1930s, but what if the better comparison is Germany in the 1920s? A new article by Paul Miller argues that to avoid the rise of authoritarianism, Christian in the United States should do the hard work now of creating an alternative political narrative rather than the easy work of demonizing one side or the other as “Nazis.” Skye talks to Lee Camp, the creator and host of “No Small Endeavor,” about creating spaces for diverse people to have important conversations and why fear is the barrier to practicing godly hospitality. Also this week—evangelicals aren’t entirely opposed to science. But, just like everyone else, they reject the science that contradicts their politics.
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1:03:02 - Hospitality vs Fear
1:15:25 - Hospitality Across the Spectrum
1:23:13 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. It's become very popular to compare our current political moment |
| 0:05.4 | with the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany in the 1930s. But what if the better comparison |
| 0:10.7 | is Germany in the 1920s? A new article by Paul Miller argues that to avoid the rise of authoritarianism, |
| 0:18.0 | Christians in the United States should do the hard work now of creating |
| 0:22.0 | an alternative political narrative, rather than the easy work of demonizing one side or the |
| 0:27.3 | other as Nazis. |
| 0:29.3 | Then I talked to Lee Camp, the creator and host of No Small Endeavor, about creating spaces |
| 0:34.7 | for diverse people to have important conversations, and why fear is a barrier to practicing godly hospitality. |
| 0:41.3 | Also this week, evangelicals aren't entirely opposed to science, |
| 0:45.3 | but just like everyone else, they reject the science that contradicts their politics. |
| 0:50.3 | Before we get started, the Holy Post is going to be part of another upcoming live event. |
| 0:55.0 | Exiles in Babylon is a three-day conference in Minneapolis designed to engage the most polarizing topics in the church today, |
| 1:02.0 | with conference speakers that many of you will remember from this show, including Preston Sprinkle, |
| 1:07.0 | Malcolm Foley, Munther Isaac, and our very own Caitlin Chess. |
| 1:11.7 | On April 3rd, as part of the pre-conference, Caitlin is going to host Latasha Morrison |
| 1:16.3 | and Malcolm Foley to explore politics, culture, theology, and anything else the audience wants |
| 1:21.4 | to talk about. |
| 1:22.6 | And you can purchase tickets just to that pre-conference session with Caitlin or to the entire Exiles and Babylon |
| 1:28.7 | conference by going to our website, holypost.com slash events. And if for some reason you can't |
| 1:34.7 | make it to Minneapolis, there are also streaming options available. So again, go to holypost.com |
| 1:40.5 | slash events to learn more. Here is episode 662. |
| 1:45.7 | Hey there, welcome back to the podcast. This is the Hoy Post Podcast. I'm Phil Visher, |
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