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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#661: We Will Not Live Like This with Tom Luongo

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8764 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Tom Luongo to discuss America's potential turning point following recent political violence, the strategy behind Trump's methodical approach to draining the swamp, and why the 30-year mortgage market could be the key to rebuilding middle-class wealth.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

0:23.5

currency, Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.8

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:34.2

What a week.

0:38.0

I think it was exactly 14 months ago.

0:41.6

We met a few days after the attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.

0:48.0

And unfortunately, we're meeting today in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk being assassinated.

0:55.0

And it seems like, I mean, we talked about it in the context of Trump and Butler.

1:01.2

It seemed like there was a big change there.

1:02.8

This seems orders of magnitude bigger in terms of vibe shift.

1:07.2

Yeah, I think so because, you know, the guy missed originally. You know, had Trump been killed, it had a completely different story, right? And, um, but what's going on with, with Charlie Kirk, uh, in the, in the aftermath of it, and I'll be, I'll, and I'll, I'll cop to this. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't interact.

1:28.6

I didn't interact with Charlie Kirk and that, that segment of, you know, American

1:34.2

politics for a long, long time.

1:35.6

I really didn't.

1:36.5

I just kind of like, I always looked at Kirk as kind of like, oh, you know, he's kind

1:40.3

of baseline.

1:41.0

And because we're so out, me and the people that I, I circulate in that, that part of the world that I circulate in is so far out, you know, on the tip of the spear, trying to figure out where we are.

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