Hey, welcome to the mentally chill podcast brought to you from the East Coast. I'm here. I made it.

I'm your host, Kristen Carney. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I moved to the East Coast.

Temporarily at my parents. I can't put enough exclamation points around the word temporarily. It's temporary.

I'm saying that for me, not you. I'm trying to not feel bad about the situation I'm in right now.

And I won't feel bad. I'm okay. I'll be fine. I won't be here long. I met my parents and it's very pleasant. It's very

comforting. I feel really great about being around things that are familiar and that feel like home

and I had a couple bad days, big surprise. But I was so glad that I had them here on the East Coast

rather than alone in my apartment in

L.A. The anxiety was still there, but it's like, okay, you suddenly have diarrhea. You're grateful

if you have it at home or somewhere where there's a private toilet.

So having anxiety at home felt like getting to do diarrhea in your house

and not in a public restroom or at a party at a friend's house.

That is probably one of the best analogies I will ever give, so you're welcome for that.

But anyway, so today's episode I have ex-NBA player, Paul Shirley, on the show,

talking to me about sports and how he used sports and basketball as therapy as a child

and how it still helps him today and how he had to be a little

OCD and a little crazy to get to the professional level of basketball.

And we also talk about dating and depression because he's a guy who's dating.

And you can hear him talk about his dating on his podcast called Stories. I

tell on dates and it's a highly produced podcast, much more highly produced than this one. Oh,

and a quick side note about the show today. If you feel like listening to the show outside,

I would recommend doing so or if you feel like you need a nice summer night outside,

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