Hey, the folks, welcome back.

I hope you've not only heard about the Babylon B,

but rejoice in it at least daily.

I have to say I have a comedy background.

I was the editor of the humor magazine at Yale University.

I've written humor pieces for the New York Times,

the New Yorker, the Atlantic,

all those left-wing pagan publications. I take humor very, very seriously. And doing written humor is extremely difficult. So when the Babylon B first emerged, I thought, can this be? Is it possible that there are

serious Christians with a conservative viewpoint who are doing humor at the top level? I have to tell

you, it didn't seem possible to me. The fact that it is possible is a tremendous gift from God.

And so it's my privilege now to bring back onto the program, the CEO of the Babylon B, Seth Dillon.

Seth, so grateful for you. I hope you can hear it in my tone. Very great for you. Of course. Thank you very much. That was a great introduction. We have to clip that and use that in the future.

Yeah, I mean, well, let me just say really quickly in response to something that you said, you know this about Christians doing comedy is this even possible you know like I think one of the things that

was kind of front and center um in terms of like what our mission was what we're trying to

accomplish with the Babylon B was it kind of falls in line with something

that C.S. Lewis said, where he said, you know, we don't need more good books. We need more,

I mean, we don't need more Christian books. We need more good books written by Christians.

Don't want to watch that. And I think that's like a subtle but significant distinction, you know,

it's this idea that you can write about your theology,

you can read with the message and try to beat people over the head with your Bible, but you're

going to actually have more of an impact if you slip under the door in some other way. And humor is an

effective way of doing that. Creative storytelling is an effective way of doing that. Christians have

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