66. No War But Secret War (AKA "What We Do Is Secret, Secret" - The CIA, Probably)

Pick Me Up, I'm Scared.

Madeline Pendleton and David Roberts

Society & Culture

4.8 • 724 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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This week, Madeline and Kenna talk about the Secret War in Laos, colonization, and how sexy Madeline's voice is or isn't right now! PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pickmeupimscared SOURCES: https://www.legaciesofwar.org/legacies-library https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/bombing-of-hiroshima-and-nagasaki https://www.britannica.com/place/Vietnam/The-two-Vietnams-1954-65. https://www.ncpedia.org/anchor/vietnam-war-timeline https://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Laos/sub5_3a/entry-2935.html https://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Laos/sub5_3a/entry-2936.html https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/laos https://pbswisconsin.org/news-item/how-did-hmong-people-find-their-way-to-wisconsin-the-answer-has-roots-in-americas-secret-war/ https://tinyurl.com/3znc4pzf https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/preserving-history-americas-secret-war-laos-rcna28893 https://www.thecollector.com/war-in-laos-most-heavily-bombed-country-in-history/ https://www.history.com/news/laos-most-bombed-country-vietnam-war https://winwithoutwar.org/secret-war-forgotten-war-the-u-s-bombing-of-laos/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HL9AGWhaw4ojScNBZ1vLC3R7zel1sY2_/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ridLO_8MP_zWug8lLQXBEK8dn55t3iJ/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GDEpStj7L5R_BiMrpEpHkpEvojxI039s/view https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-history#domino-theory https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/peking-review/1970/PR1970-19X.pdf https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/14672715.1989.10404456 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/14672715.1989.10404456 https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/world/asia/18laos.html https://ereader.perlego.com/1/book/778482/22

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0:00.0	Welcome to Pick Me Up, I'm scared. The podcast. Before we get started on today's episode, I just wanted to add a little
0:28.1	content warning. We will be talking about violence and at times there will be graphic accounts of
0:33.4	violence and it will be graphic accounts of violence sometimes directed at children. So
0:38.5	we'll try not to be too egregious about it, but if that is something you would prefer not to hear
0:42.8	at all, maybe this is a good episode to skip. I'm your host Madeline. And I'm your co-host,
0:47.6	Kenna. Okay, Kenna, today, my voice is still weird. I'm realizing this. Do right do you think it's okay yeah it's just a little
0:55.9	husky but i don't have a cough drop like last week i i still say that it's it's sexy okay cool all right
1:01.8	so i'm still sexy but not in a weird way you know right like cool way oh okay okay okay i like that
1:07.4	i mean not that being sexy is weird i don don't know. It sounds cool. Okay.
1:11.1	All right.
1:11.6	Thank you.
1:14.6	We're talking about a very unsexy topic today.
1:18.7	So it'll be a nice juxtaposition for the listeners.
1:20.0	For the listeners out there.
1:20.8	All right.
1:26.5	So, Kenna, today I wanted to start the podcast out by asking you, if you had a guess,
1:28.4	this is the least sexy question of all time.
1:34.0	Oh my God. What do you think is the most heavily bombed country per capita in the world?
1:49.2	The most heavily bombed country? Like Sudan or something? Okay. It is actually Laos. Laouse. Yes, it is Laos. And if you had to guess,
1:54.9	who bombed them so much that it earned them this horrific title? What country would you think it would be? Uh, the U.S. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, because we got the most, we got the most bombs.
1:59.3	Yeah, we're doing the most bombing. We're bombing everybody.
2:01.6	It's really not great.
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