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🗓️ 15 May 2019
⏱️ 96 minutes
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Philosophers have argued about the nature and the very existence of free will for centuries. Today, many scientists and scientifically minded commentators are skeptical that it exists, especially when it is understood to require the ability to choose between alternative possibilities. If the laws of physics govern everything that happens, they argue, then how can our choices be free? Believers in free will must be misled by habit, sentiment, or religious doctrine. Why Free Will is Real defies scientific orthodoxy and presents a bold new defense of free will in the same naturalistic terms that are usually deployed against it.
Unlike those who defend free will by giving up the idea that it requires alternative possibilities to choose from, Christian List retains this idea as central, resisting the tendency to defend free will by watering it down. He concedes that free will and its prerequisites—intentional agency, alternative possibilities, and causal control over our actions—cannot be found among the fundamental physical features of the natural world. But, he argues, that’s not where we should be looking. Free will is a “higher-level” phenomenon found at the level of psychology. It is like other phenomena that emerge from physical processes but are autonomous from them and not best understood in fundamental physical terms—like an ecosystem or the economy. When we discover it in its proper context, acknowledging that free will is real is not just scientifically respectable; it is indispensable for explaining our world.
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0:28.9 | We continue on every week. I have books piling into my house that come almost every day, science books, philosophy books, |
0:37.0 | so that's kind of our niche now. |
0:40.3 | Today's guest is Christian List, his new book is Why Free Will is Real. |
0:46.2 | So we get into it, his epigrams for the whole book come from Sam Harris and |
0:50.3 | Jerry Coyne, both good friends and pretty hardcore determinants. |
0:54.0 | So he addresses their claims, although he, the whole book is really a professional, |
1:01.0 | book written for professional philosophers and he deals with all |
1:05.8 | their challenges. Christian List is a professor of philosophy and political science |
1:10.1 | at the London School of Economics and Political Science and a fellow of the British Academy. |
1:15.3 | He lives in London. |
1:16.6 | So I talked to him this morning when it was his evening and he was gracious enough to take the |
1:20.9 | time. |
1:21.9 | We really get into it. I tried to steal man the arguments made |
1:26.5 | by Sam and Jerry and other determinists. I wasn't just going to channel my inner Dan Dennett because I thought it would be |
1:35.1 | interesting for him to respond to the arguments that I've heard determinists |
1:39.7 | like Sam and Jerry make and he did so I don't know if it's ever going to be resolved |
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