656. Rachel Johnson: Britain's Slow Suicide, Neil Gaiman Scandal & The Queen's Last Words to My Bro Boris

The Andrew Gold Show (Heretics)

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.3 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Journalist and broadcaster Rachel Johnson joins Andrew Gold to discuss the "tripwires" currently silencing British discourse. From her "Master" investigation into Neil Gaiman and the complexities of coercive control (33:00) to why she remains a "Remainer" despite the "4-hour biometric queues" of a post-Brexit world (16:00), Rachel pulls no punches. SUPPORT MY GUEST: - Follow Rachel Johnson on X: https://x.com/RachelSJohnson - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/racheljohnsonpublic/ - Watch her The Master series on Neil Gaiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh48rdEgLIg - Keep up with her on LBC: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/rachel-johnson/ SPONSORS: Support our sponsor: go to https://boncharge.com and use code HERETICS to save 15%. Go to https://boncharge.com and use code HERETICS to save 15%. Go to https://surfshark.com/heretics for 4 extra months of Surfshark Get an exclusive 15% discount on Saily data plans! Use code andrewgold at checkout. Download Saily app or go to https://saily.com/andrewgold Check Plaud UK: https://bit.ly/40Gzdh1 | US: https://bit.ly/475MQKe Notepro: https://bit.ly/479tWSR Organise your life: https://akiflow.pro/Heretics Earn up to 4 per cent on gold, paid in gold: https://www.monetary-metals.com/heretics/ Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics We explore the "overcorrection" of the Boris-wave immigration, why the "center ground" is being treated as heresy, and the "puddle-deep" nature of modern political fame. Support the Heretics mission: Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations: Andrew Gold | Heretics. #RachelJohnson #BorisJohnson #UKPolitics #LBC #FreeSpeech #Heretics #AndrewGold #Islamism Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 00:00 "This country has gone nuts" 05:30 - Should the Burka be banned? 09:00 - The "Boris Wave" of immigration 13:30 - Fined for stopping the boats? 16:00 - Almost divorced in a post-Brexit queue 20:00 - The "Anywhere" people vs. Sovereignty 23:45 - Is Europe becoming a Caliphate? 27:30 - Handling the "Islamophobe" label 33:00 - The "outside bath" & Neil Gaiman 37:15 - "Master" & Coercive Control 43:00 - Why I hate "cancellation" 46:50 - Boris's final morning in Downing Street 48:15 - The Queen’s final advice: "Don't be ******" 52:10 - Is Israel an Apartheid state? 55:40 - Getting rid of "Victim Culture" 57:50 - Russell Brand & Noel Gallagher Madness 1:00:00 Rachel Storms Off Set! Is She Really Joking? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.7	Either him or Boris.
0:32.6	That is the last time you're allowed to say that.
0:34.1	Right, I'm leaving.
0:34.9	Do an angry war.
0:36.4	How dare you?
1:12.5	I thought I came here on my own account, Andrew Gold. I'm leaving. Do an angry war. How dare you? I thought I came here on my own account, Andrew Gold. I'm leaving. That just happened. And it's going to happen again at the end. But before it does, Rachel Johnson is Boris's sister. She's also a brilliant journalist in her own right. And she was in Downing Street the day he left for Balmoral to say goodbye to the Queen. I'm going to take her through three rooms, and she knows things about what happened inside them that nobody has ever asked her on camera. Today, I'm going to ask her. Also, I've counted every time Boris gets mentioned in this episode. Let's see what we get up to by the end. I watched my brother leave Downing Street with Carrie, getting into his convoy, to go up to Balmoral, to say goodbye to the Queen.
1:15.0	She said, I'm infuriated and made very anxious by the rise of Islamism in this country and
1:23.5	the supine posture taken by the Labour Party in order not to lose votes.
1:28.3	But they'll win, eventually.
1:29.3	Because of demographics, eventually.
1:31.3	Yes, we shouldn't have council candidates in full Berger standing for election in this country.
1:38.3	We shouldn't have local elections fought on a polarising secretarian topic. This country's gone nuts. How frustrating is it to be
1:46.8	Boris's sister? I have to accept. The Boris wave was bad. Why did that happen? I must say they go, gosh.
1:55.8	Anyway, enough B word. Rachel doesn't want me to talk about Boris. Well, I'm leaving because you mentioned
2:00.1	Boris. Rachel Johnson, welcome to the show. Thank you, talk about Boris. I'm leaving because you mentioned Boris.
2:02.8	Rachel Johnson, welcome to the show.
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