652: Families Need Formation Not Formulas with Emily McGowin
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 15 January 2025
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
How can we help those impacted by the L.A. wildfires? Because of A.I., climate change, and falling fertility rates, Ezra Klein says we are living “in the age of monsters,” but is he really just upset about Trump? And how is technology fundamentally rewiring our brains to avoid social interaction, and what should we do about it? Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye offer their suggestions. Then Kaitlyn talks with Wheaton College theology professor Emily McGowin about her new book, “Households of Faith,” and what it means to think of our families formationally rather than formulaically. Also this week—the new Holy Post studio is killer!
0:00 - Show Starts
2:16 - Theme Song
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7:57 - California Wildfires
15:22 - The Time of the Monsters
25:11 - The Time for Churches
31:25 - The Anti-Social Century
39:12 - Tiktok and Lonely Routines
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55:00 - Interview
56:42 - Why Write About Family?
1:00:40 - Discernment and Improvisation
1:08:04 - Family of God
1:16:05 - Sabbath for Fellowship
1:22:31 - Rhythms of Life
1:29:30 - End Credits
Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God by Emily Hunter McGowin: https://a.co/d/7hd5XIW
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Ezra Klein’s “Now is the Time of the Monsters:”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/12/opinion/ai-climate-change-low-birth-rates.html
The Anti-Social Century:
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. On today's episode, we talk about how we can help those impacted by the LA wildfires. |
| 0:07.1 | And then Ezra Klein has a new article where he says that because of AI, climate change, and falling fertility rates, we're living in the age of monsters. |
| 0:16.4 | But is he really just upset about Donald Trump? And how is technology fundamentally rewiring our brains to avoid social interactions, and |
| 0:24.5 | what can we do about it? |
| 0:26.1 | Phil Caitlin and I give our suggestions, and then Caitlin interviews Wheaton College Theology |
| 0:31.0 | Professor Emily McGowan about her new book, Households of Faith, and what it means to think |
| 0:36.4 | about our families formationally rather than formulaically. |
| 0:40.3 | We've got two more things before we jump into the episode. |
| 0:43.3 | First, as you'll hear, this is our first episode recorded in our brand new studio. |
| 0:48.3 | And with that up and running, we're going to be doing a lot more video content. |
| 0:51.3 | So if you haven't subscribed to the Holy Post Media YouTube channel, |
| 0:55.4 | you're going to want to do that to see the new studio and get notified whenever we post |
| 0:59.7 | new video content. And secondly, Emily McGowan's book Households of Faith is our |
| 1:04.9 | Holy Post Book Club selection for this quarter, and Holy Post Plus subscribers at the $10 per month |
| 1:10.6 | or higher level will automatically get a |
| 1:12.9 | free copy of the book. You can subscribe to Holy Post Plus at holypost.com. Here is episode 652. |
| 1:21.0 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil. I'm here with Caitlin Chethex. Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Phil. And Sky Jitani, hi, Sky. |
| 1:30.3 | Hi. You may notice something different unless you're just listening to audio and then you don't |
| 1:35.0 | notice anything different, except that we may respond to each other ever so slightly faster. |
| 1:42.2 | We are recording in the same room, in our new studio space, yes, the Holy Post |
| 1:48.7 | studios. It always sounds better if it's plural. |
| 1:53.0 | Studios? Yeah, Holy Post Studios. Yeah. Like it's a whole campus? You have a back lot. |
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