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Mormon Stories Podcast

651: One Ordinary Family's Extraordinary Mormon Transition Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2016

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

In this epic, three-part interview with Paul, Lisa, and Kyle, we learn about one ordinary Mormon family’s extraordinary Mormon transition. Topics covered in this episode include:

  • Living as an orthodox Mormon family in rural Utah.
  • Dealing with a crisis of faith in a large, orthodox Mormon family.
  • Living in a mixed-faith marriage.
  • How to ineffectively and effectively communicate with believing family members (siblings, extended family).
  • Dealing with a missionary in the field while the family is having a crisis of faith.
  • Supporting a gay child.
  • Leaving the church after decades of service, and in mid-life.
  • As a parent, sitting outside your own child’s wedding.
  • Finding communities of support (and joy) after leaving the church.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thanks for joining us today on Mormie Stories.

0:08.4

If you enjoyed this episode, please help us make more like it by becoming a monthly subscriber

0:12.8

at morminstories.org.

0:15.3

Music for this episode was provided by The Lower Lights.

0:18.2

And other sources cease to make me whole.

0:28.5

When with a wounded heart, anger or mouths, I draw myself apart, searching myself.

0:47.1

Hello and welcome back to another episode of Mormie Stories podcast.

0:51.4

It's still September 7th, I'm told.

0:53.9

And we're in part two of our interview with an ordinary family's extraordinary journey

1:01.0

regarding a mormin transition.

1:04.3

And we're here today again with Lisa and Paul and Kyle, three other children on present.

1:12.6

We just in part one went through an epic journey learning about Paul and Lisa growing up in

1:19.6

a small rural Utah town about their marriage, about their experiences in the temple.

1:28.8

And in their early married years, we learned about how Paul just never quite totally felt

1:34.8

comfortable in all the aspects of the church, even though he had a very orthodox upbringing

1:40.5

and how slowly that came to wear on his marriage with Lisa over time through 29 years of marriage.

1:48.9

We also learned about how older son, who we're not naming names for the people who aren't

1:54.2

present, we're not using last names just to sort of to try and minimize any harm that

1:59.8

could come from this podcast.

2:02.3

But we learned about how older son left the faith and how that was dealt with.

2:08.4

And then we learned about how Paul and Lisa both tried to deal with differences in faith

2:16.3

up until the point where Paul's faith, his shelf collapsed in 2014 when he stumbled upon

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