Hello, world.

Welcome to discover your talent, do what you love.

Number 650.

I'm your host, Don Hutchison.

Every Monday and Wednesday, I interview someone around the world who's discovered

their talents to do work they love to create a life of success, satisfaction, and freedom.

On Fridays, I interview a well-known expert from the fields of personal or business development

who share experiences, tools, and insights to help our listeners along their journeys.

I'm delighted to bring you our featured expert, John Vespasian. Welcome, John. Hi, you

A few words about John. He is the author of nine books about rational living and has turned his

international background and his personal interest in history

into a breed of personal development books that emphasize rationality, resilience, and learning from real-life examples.

His latest books are titled On Becoming Unbreakable, Thriving in Difficult Times and Sequentiality,

The Amazing Power of finding the right sequence of

steps, which just came out last year. Well, today's topic is a low energy approach to personal

development. So you've written extensively on this topic and others. So take the stage and set it up

for us and let's get going. Yes. I would like to start explaining why I write books in the first place, which is not self-evident,

because it takes so much work and it's so difficult to make money writing books.

So I started to write books.

It's now 10 years ago out of sheer irritation.

I have to say that for decades I have been a voracious reader of psychology, personal development, philosophy,

marketing, all kinds of books, nonfiction, mostly. But at a certain point, I became very

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