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I'm going to Hello and welcome to Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My name is Alex Doretti and my guest today is Corey Robin.

We spoke about his recent article for Dissent magazine, The Abamanaut.

What is the defining achievement of Barack Obama?

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difference in helping the show to find new listeners. Corey Robin is a professor of political

science at Brooklyn College and the CUNY Graduate Center. He's the author of Fear, the history

of a political idea, and The Reactionary

Mind, Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Donald Trump, which we discussed in episode 42.

His essays and reviews have appeared in The New York Times, The New Yorker, Harper's, the New

Republic, and the London Review of Books, amongst other venues. So for this article that you wrote for dissent,

you wrote about these seven memoirs from various White House staffers

during the Obama presidency and also Brian Abrams's oral history of the Obama years.

First off, it kind of feels like the left owes you a bit of a debt of gratitude,

you know, for ploughing through these books because, you know, the article's great. It didn't a debt of gratitude, you know, for ploughing through these

books because, you know, the article's great. It didn't leave me with any, you know, the slightest

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