Hello and welcome to this episode of the Mary Trump Show. I am really excited to welcome

Jason Kander, former Army captain, the first millennial elected to state white office

secretary of Missouri, founder of let America vote, president of national expansion at veterans

community project and author most recently of the New York Times bestseller Invisible Storm,

a soldier's memoir of politics and PTSD. Jason, it is so great to have you. How are you doing?

I am great and it's so great to be here. Thanks so much for the opportunity. I really appreciate it.

Well, I've been wanting to talk to you for a long time, just about your experiences in general,

and then you wrote this profoundly important and profound book. Like many Americans, I was

familiar with your story and your work in politics and then what happened after your decision

to step away from politics and your story in general resonated at the most basic level because I

also have PTSD. And it is, as you know, always sort of validating to hear somebody else's experiences.

But in this book, you take that to a completely other level because it is so honest and you allow

yourself and it to be so vulnerable to us that, you know, I wanted to talk to you about the

the process of writing it and also how the, I guess the aftermath of the book, especially in the

context of COVID, which, you know, as I'm sure you're aware, has created a mental health crisis,

the likes of which I don't think we see in this country. So I just wanted to start there with you,

the process of writing the book and how the aftermath of it has been for you.

Yeah, thank you. You know, the process of writing the book is really interesting and

difficult for all the right reasons. You know, the obvious stuff, I mean, it's difficult to write

about your trauma. Interestingly, it was not that difficult for me to write about what the

majority of the book is about, which is, you know, going through, you know, the 10 years that I did

without you know, being diagnosed and not realizing that I had PTSD. And also it wasn't difficult to

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