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65. OCD Isn't What You Think It Is — A Conversation with Bonnie Young

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Christianity, Ethics, Latter-day Saint, The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints, Mormon, Mormonism, Morality, Lds, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2021

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we talked about OCD and scrupulosity. OCD is a difficult subject because the term is often thrown around as an adjective to describe perfectionistic tendencies. But true obsessive compulsive disorder is so different than the stereotypes may lead people to believe, and it can be a really serious mental health issue — one that is undoubtedly affecting someone you know and love. It can also be especially hard on missionaries.

So many people who have OCD—especially religiously-themed OCD—don’t know what to call their pain and often have only religious language or explanations for what they’re feeling. That can lead to years of deep and unnecessary suffering.

And that gets to the primary reason we’re doing this episode — we hope that listeners who are suffering from OCD, or their loved ones, will hear this and recognize something in themselves that they didn’t quite understand. We really want them to know that they’re not bad or corrupt or evil, and that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Bonnie is a marriage and family therapist, mother of two, and author of several academic articles on religion and mental health. She has a bachelor’s degree in history with an emphasis in Mormon women’s history and a master’s degree in marriage and family therapy, both from BYU. Bonnie’s currently based in Seattle, and specializes in treating clients with anxiety, religious OCD / scrupulosity, and sexual disorders.

Bonnie was amazing, and she really helped articulate some of the most difficult challenges that OCD presents, and ways to start addressing it.


Recommended Resources—

Self-help:

“The Mindfulness Workbook for OCD,” which you can find on Amazon.

“Brain Lock,” by Jeffrey Schwartz, also available on Amazon

Children:

“What to do when your brain gets stuck”, workbook for kids which again, you can find on Amazon.

Hey Warrior, by Karen Young, great illustrations, our kids love this one.


Podcasts:

Bonnie recommended “The OCD Stories.”

Richard Ostler has also done several podcasts related to OCD, and you can go to listenlearnandlove.org and head to the mental health section.

Parenting Survival Podcast by Natasha Daniels focuses on kids with OCD


Educational videos:

“Madeofmilllions.com”

“Nathan Peterson OCD.” has a series of educational vioeos on OCD

We also loved the movie about OCD for kids called “Unstuck,” which you can find at “ocdkidsmovie.com”


And for conferences, camps, and other general resources, the International OCD Foundation has it all.

Perhaps most importantly, you can find a therapists who specialize in OCD in your city on their website @ iocdf.org





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it on the book for now, but we'll be sharing a lot more in the near future. Thanks as always,

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and here's the episode. Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. So in this

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episode, we talked about OCD and Scribulosity. OCD is such a difficult subject because so often you

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hear that term thrown around really casually as an adjective when someone is talking about how

1:07.9

perfectionistic they are, how clean they like things, but true obsessive compulsive disorder is

1:12.9

so different than those stereotypes may lead people to believe, and it really is a serious mental

1:17.2

health issue. And one that is for sure affecting someone that you know right now and love,

1:22.3

and it's especially hard on our missionaries. So many people who have OCD especially religiously

1:28.2

themed OCD don't even know what to call their pain. They often only have religious language or

1:33.6

explanations for what they're feeling, and that can lead to so many years of deep and totally

1:38.5

unnecessary suffering. And that really gets to the primary reason that we're doing this episode.

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