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The Addicted Mind Podcast

65: Ketamine IV Therapy with Michael Steuer

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7 • 655 Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Our guest on this episode of The Addicted Mind podcast is Dr. Michael Steuer of the Pacific Ketamine Institute in Los Angeles. Dr. Steuer’s training and practice have mainly been in the areas of anesthesia and pain management, but for the past 5+ years, he has shifted his focus somewhat to the use of ketamine to treat depression, mood disorders, addiction, and chronic pain.

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Before 2013, when the effectiveness of ketamine for these purposes was discovered, the main drugs to treat depression and mood disorders such as PTSD were SSRIs and SNRIs (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors and Serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors). While these medications were effective in temporarily treating the symptoms of depression and mood disorders, they often took weeks or months for patients to feel their effects and they often came with unpleasant side effects.

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While ketamine has been abused by people for its hallucinogenic properties in high doses, it has been found that lower doses have minimal short-term side effects and patients typically begin feeling relief from their symptoms during the infusion or shortly thereafter. Even patients with “treatment-resistant” depression or chronic pain feel better almost immediately, and these feelings are sustained for weeks or months after each infusion. It is recommended that patients have 6 infusions over 2 weeks in order to jump-start their recovery and most patients continue to receive one infusion per month to maintain their results.

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In the case of chronic pain, many people are prescribed narcotics or opioids, which essentially intercept the messages being sent from the body to the NMDA receptor of the brain which regulates mood and pain and the drugs themselves have addictive potential. Ketamine has proven to be more effective in modulating pain as well as addictive impulses, depression, and mood because it heightens the brain’s ability to recognize the signals being sent. This property causes ketamine to treat the root cause of the pain, rather than masking it like many opioids do. There are no known addictive properties of ketamine, making it safe for use in prescribed doses and frequencies, which may differ from person to person.

Dr. Steuer’s message to listeners who are struggling with depression is that you don’t have to be alone or feel like you want to give up. Reach out, because there are people who want to help.



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Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, everyone, welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast.

0:09.6

This is episode 65.

0:12.2

My name is Dwayne Austerland, and I'm your host.

0:15.4

I'm also the founder of Novis Mindful Life Institute, family counseling and recovery in Long Beach, California.

0:22.6

If you or anyone you know is struggling with any of life's challenges, please reach out to us.

0:28.6

You can find more information about us at theadictidmind.com forward slash help.

0:33.9

Don't forget, if you are enjoying the Addicted Mind podcast, please rate and review us in iTunes.

0:40.9

That really does help support us and gets us a lot of exposure.

0:45.6

So I really appreciate it.

0:47.4

It's nice to know that people are listening and enjoying the podcast and what I'm doing here.

0:53.4

Also, don't forget, join our Facebook group.

0:56.0

You can go to Facebook and just search the Addicted Mind podcast and join.

1:02.0

We have a lot of good conversations going on there about addiction, addiction treatment,

1:06.7

and we'd love to have you be a part of that as well.

1:09.7

So my guest today is Dr. Michael Sawyer,

1:13.8

and he is a specialist in using ketamine to treat depression, PTSD, and addiction.

1:22.9

He goes into a lot of clinical detail in this podcast about how ketamine works, some of the positive parts of it, some of the risks that are associated with it.

1:34.9

And it was really fascinating.

1:36.5

I love talking about some of these alternative modalities for treating some of our mental health issues that we struggle with and seeing that

1:46.4

there's a lot of different ways to get to the same place. So I love to talking with him. He is

1:53.8

really passionate. It really comes through in the interview. He's really passionate about doing

1:58.4

this and helping a lot of people out there who are struggling with depression, PTSD, addiction, chronic pain.

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