Guys, to be specific. Guys how you doing? Great Jake. Thanks for having us. Doing good.

Look forward to having you guys on the podcast. I know we try and do Arizona Elk and

antelope regulations units breakdown and so here we are we've got I

believe a deadline coming up February 11th for the applications for Arizona Elk and Antelope and first and

foremost guys how was how was your last season? It was good.

It was definitely a fun year in 2019.

The handler girls was awesome.

So we had some great clients and the guides did awesome.

It was just an all around fun year. You know, I think, Jay, I think the the archery route was a little slow

because of

the lack of moisture this summer and we'd probably get into that a little bit more but the rut was you know off but luckily we were able to still get it done

without you know the lack of rut the late we were

tough with the still get it done without the lack of rut. The late rifle hunts were tough

with the snow and we can talk about that as well. I think overall that success is going to be down on both of those hunts which is a

good thing for 2020.

Yeah I mean looking forward is what we're trying to do but in order to look forward you've got to look at the

past and you know from what I've heard from a lot of guys and what you guys are saying

with the lack of the summer monsoon moisture it sounds like the bulls just the

summer monsoon moisture, it sounds like the bulls just didn't bugle as good, the cows, some of them

didn't cycle on time and it kind of reports all over the state

is that the Bulls just really didn't

you know really get after it the interesting thing about that is

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