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Dolphins 31, giant 16. Welcome to Talking Giants, presented by Seeky, camera host Bobby Skinner here with my co-host Justin Pennick, and the New York Giants fall to one and four, and it's sad.

Yeah, it's sad, man. That's the intro.

So I text suggestions like we should just let's just alternate some stats. Why don't you just hit me with a stat first.

Before I get into that, because we're going to have a stat riff off here, like I could go into stats on why this team is so bad, but I want to start here.

It's October 8th when we're recording this.

This past Saturday, I watched Drake Man in Caleb Williams, like intentionally. I barely said a word all day today, all game besides slamming my couch when there were three full-star penalties on a row.

I don't care because I really don't think this team cares, so why should I?

And even at some of the lost seasons in the past Bobby, I was generally more excited to watch this team and look out for some things, but now I could not care less.

So those are my opening thoughts. Do you have any thoughts to that before I give you a stat that's bad?

Well, it's not just because they're one and four, Justin, that we have those feelings of like, man, this is just like going into this game works just like you're kind of just dejected.

And even when the Giants like, hey, maybe it can be close. You're still like, now I'm not really as I'm not I'm not on the, you know, on the edge of my couch.

Because like, I just know that this is not going to want to work well in this offense.

Snacks had a great tweet at halftime where it was 17 to 10. And he's like, oh my God, the Giants deserve like credit for only being down a touchdown.

But at the same time, it's like, it feels like you're down by four.

You're in this rear territory where halftime is 17 to 10 and the Giants are in the game.

And then also at the same time, you some, you somehow feel like they're down by four touchdowns because like you said, just the offense can't do anything.

Yeah, this offense is, it's, I mean, it's horrible.

So like, and I want to talk about Andrew Thomas's loss, right, which I think has been understated, which I didn't think it would be, but it has been understated and everyone else around has, has really been a let down.

Let me hit me with a staff though.

Okay, I'll give you, I'll give you one to start.

The Giants are still the only team in the NFL that has not covered a spread yet.

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