It's time for episode 646 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, March 4th, 20206.

Clockwise, four people, where we're coming in like a lamb and going out like a slightly louder lamb.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the internet by my good pal.

My dear friend, you know him. It's Dan the man. How you doing, Dan? I knew this was a bad idea,

Micah. I love it. As you can tell, that was a great one. But well, all right, we should end the show then. It doesn't get any better than that. Yeah, we should be... We were good. No, we do. We did invite guests, and so we should be thanking them for being here to my left, senior culture writer at TechCrunch and awarded most likely to post an inflammatory Facebook status in college. It's Amanda Silberling.

Welcome back to the show, Amanda. Hello. I think the first time I was on clockwise,

the other person had like a superlative that they won in high school or college or something.

So I put that in. And then now every time I come back, that's still like on the spreadsheet. And sometimes

I delete it. But this time I was like, you know what? Why not? Why not? I need to own who I am.

Exactly. Embrace it. Also embracing their identity to my left this week, it's co-host of the

primary technology podcast and co-host of Mac power users right here on Relay.

It's Stephen Robles. Welcome back, Stephen. He's beginning to believe. Sorry, I had to do a Matrix quote with the new MacBook Neo.

Oh, clever. Clever. Deep cut. Well, you all know how this works. We've got four topics, 30 minutes. Mine for you all is this.

It's been a while since I've played The Sims, and I didn't realize that back a few years ago, it went free to play.

I'm just kind of curious, have you ever played The Sims?

And just tell us about your experience and would you consider checking it out again

if you don't play it now? Amanda, we'll start with you. I played as a kid a little bit,

but I wasn't super into it, but I think a lot of those sorts of games I played maybe before

I was intellectually ready for them because I have an older siblings. So I just kind of

was doing whatever he was doing. But so when I played The Sims and Rollercoaster Tycoon and all those

games, I always did like the infinite money modes so that I could just have fun with like

the role playing aspect and not worried about the financial aspect. And now I'm kind of like, I don't know,

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