645 // Thirteen Perfect Fugitives w/ Geoffrey Kelly

Missing

Crawlspace Media

News, Society & Culture, True Crime

3.7 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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In this new episode, ⁠Crawlspace Media⁠'s Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with retired FBI special agent and author Geoffrey Kelly about his new book, ⁠Thirteen Perfect Fugitives⁠, about the 1990 Gardner Museum heist in Boston, Massachusetts. Geoff was head of the Gardner investigation for the FBI for many years and after his recent retirement he wrote this outstanding book. Check it out wherever you get your books! Links below. ⁠https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives/Geoffrey-Kelly/9798895653173⁠. ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives-Murder-Largest/dp/B0FDGTZJH9⁠. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Kensington Publishing: ⁠⁠https://www.kensingtonbooks.com⁠⁠. The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The
0:07.0	The In today's new episode, we speak with former FBI agent Jeffrey Kelly about his brand new book, 13 perfect fugitives, the true story of the mob, murder, and the world's largest art heist.
0:54.3	Lance, as you know, we have known of this case for a long time.
0:59.8	In fact, we have a spin-off podcast called Empty Frames all about the Isabella
1:05.2	Stewart Gardner Museum Heist in 1990 in Boston, Massachusetts.
1:11.5	And this guest, Jeffrey Kelly, is pretty much a dream guest as far as that podcast goes.
1:17.7	What do you think of this conversation?
1:19.2	Yeah, I mean, you nailed it.
1:20.2	I mean, it's really remarkable when you've been covering one story for so long.
1:24.7	And we've been covering many stories for a long time and the isabella
1:28.7	Stewart Gardening Museum heist is one that we've been covering for years and every one of these
1:32.8	stories has that handful of guests that you're just like if we could get this person you know
1:37.4	it would answer a lot of questions and Jeff Kelly is that person among the few of those people to come on to talk about the Gardner Heist.
1:47.4	So he wrote a book. We're more than happy to have him on.
1:51.1	He turned out to be an amazing guest, very forthcoming, very personable, great sense of humor,
1:57.1	and was able to fill in a lot of the blanks that I think with all these stories that we
2:01.4	talk about just naturally happened because you don't have a Jeff Kelly.
2:05.2	And we couldn't have been more grateful to have him come on.
2:07.8	Yes.
2:08.1	And this episode is going to air on crawl space, on missing, and then on empty frames.
2:12.9	And then Lance and I are going to do a debrief on empty frames based on this conversation because,
2:19.8	as you said, I mean, this answers so many questions that we've had for years about this case.
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