Mac Power Users, episode 641, catching up with Federico Vatici.

Hello, everyone. This is David Sparks and I am joined by Mr. Steven Hackett. How are you today, Steven?

I'm good, David. How are you? I'm really good. More importantly, we have a special guest on today,

the guest that I never allow my wife to listen to because she thinks he has the best voice and

podcasting. Welcome to the show, Federico. Hey, guys. Thanks for having me back. It's been, it's been a

while. Yeah, it has been too long. You know, we've talked about getting you on, but you're such a

busy guy. And I know like as soon as WWDC, it's, you kind of go into your tunnel into your

review tunnel. Come on. Yeah, well, I told you, I would love to be on. Just make sure that it's

before WWDC and I'm all yours. And you work kind enough to make it happen in mid-May, which is

perfect. Just perfect timing. Yes. Yeah. Are you excited for WWDC? Well, how could I not be, right?

I mean, it's, it's the single most important time of the year for my, for my work, really. I mean,

it's that end September when, when the things actually come out. But June is the big reveal. It's,

it's like Christmas for what we do. You know, and I'm especially intrigued this year to see

what happens on the iPad. Maybe we can talk about that later, but there's a lot of, I think there's

a lot of pent up demand, obviously, but also frustration from some users who are, who have gotten

tired of waiting for iPad OS to get better. And so if it actually gets better this year, I'm,

I mean, treat to see what happens. Yeah. I feel like that's, it's me. I'm, I've uninvested from iPad.

And this will be the year that they fix it. Yes. And that chaos that that will happen is why I'm

here. Like, I want to see what happens. And I count myself in this audience. Like, I've sort of

gotten tired of waiting for the iPad to get better. But what if it does? Like, what does it mean?

And how can it get better? Like, will we reconsider? So that, that's sort of the energy that I'm

bringing into WDC, WDC this year. Like, what if they actually do it? Then what?

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