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Sudan won South Africa's biggest country has been in conflict for so many years. When South Sudan became independent,

it was supposed to usher in a new period of peace and stability in the region. But now, southern Khornafan.

At its heart is the new mountains where some 50 black African tribes have lived for thousands of years.

Now there's fighting there once more in one of the most remote corners of a vast country.

Well the President of Sudan is Omar Hassan Al-Bashir was been in power since 1989 that it grew.

And he's an absolute dictator. He's got his been indicted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Before he didn't dare for.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clementi, former New York City prosecutor and retired FBI profiler.

And today with me is...

I'm a former Richard's criminal behavioral analyst, advocate and author, founder and director of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

And I'm Lisa Zambetti, I'm the casting director for Criminal Minds where Jim Clementi is my colleague and we are going into our 13th season.

So congratulations my friend, we have jobs for next year and a real interest in Real Crime and the minds that solve those crimes.

And today we have a very special guest with us.

Laura Lisa, it's Ken Carlson, I'm thrilled to be here. I'm a writer, a producer and a director in the Hollywood Hills here of California.

And today we're going to be talking about a documentary movie that you made which touched all of us here at Real Crime Profile, particularly in its focus on the victims of war crimes in Sudan.

It's a film that I recently completed and there's a narrative that I run through. It's a friend of my Tom Katina. He's the only doctor within 200 miles for about a million people in this war torn area.

And the documentary is called The Heart of Nuba and it's set in Sudan, the southern part of Sudan in the mountains there called the Nuba Mountains.

Correct, yes. And this is a, you know, this is next to the Blue Nile district. There's two, two regions that Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the president of Sudan is now focusing on.

He's he's worked his way through Darfur still there committing a lot of war crimes, but he's now focused on the Nuba Mountains in the Blue Nile district and he's committing genocide like he did in Darfur.

So it's a very serious thing and I decided to determine a camera on it. But once again, I, as I said before, I have a narrative that my narrative is Dr. Tom Katina. So we understand the conflict and the people in this region through his eyes.

Just for the edification of our listeners who don't know the history here, back in 2011, the country of Sudan was split into Sudan and South Sudan.

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