I am so excited about this episode. I could not wait to talk to Vita and Ellen

because these brave ladies had one career and had kids, and then decided to go back to school and start a second

career when they were in their early 50s, late 40s, midlife, let's say.

What a brave thing to do, and I could not wait

to talk to them about it because I'm just,

I just thought it was so brave and so cool and we ended up talking about things other than career which was also great but I hope you enjoy this episode. I really enjoyed this conversation and I learned a lot in this conversation I hope you do too

Thanks for coming back every week. Thanks for sharing my podcast. Thanks for liking it.

And I hope you enjoy this episode with Vita and Ellen. I rode my bicycle past your window last night

I roller skated to your door at daylight.

It almost seems like you're avoiding me.

I'm okay alone, but you got something I need.

Well, I got a brand new fairer on estates.

You got a brand new key.

I think that we should get together and try the march you see.

La la la la la. La la la. So I wanted you guys to go and I got a brand new pair all the skates. You got a brand new

cheese.

So I wanted you guys to come on because you made a career choice after having kids after

having a different career right and went back to school. Coincidentally you made the same career choice is that right and

came from the same career choices wait what was your career what were we were both

our directors yeah in the creative world you're. I didn't know that. Yeah, and that I mean different facets of it talk about parallel. Yeah. Oh my God. All right, so we on are we doing this? Yeah, I started a long time ago. See how you don't even know what's happening.

That's the whole point is that you don't know us happening.

We're just having a conversation.

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