64. MAGA Pastors have the WORST arguments for Christian Nationalism

The Tim & April Show

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy respond to a discussion among four megachurch pastors about Christian nationalism. They explore the definitions, misconceptions, and historical context of Christian nationalism, emphasizing its implications for American politics and society. The hosts critique the pastors' views, highlighting the dangers of conflating Christianity with American identity and the historical injustices perpetuated by this ideology. Chapters 01:43 Introducing the Pastors and Their Backgrounds 05:01 Diving into the Discussion on Christian Nationalism 08:11 Historical Context and Misconceptions 17:40 Addressing the Nuances of Christian Nationalism 28:56 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps 38:29 Culture Wars and Morality 43:34 Christian Influence in Public Policy 48:19 Different Factions of Christian Nationalism 01:06:05 Empathy vs. Dogma 01:20:29 Legal and Moral Implications in Society 01:24:28 Christian Nationalism and Founding Documents 01:53:20 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:01.6	The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics and culture.
1:13.5	All right, friends, welcome into this show.
1:15.4	I'm Tim Whitaker.
1:16.8	And I am April of Joy.
1:20.0	Don't mind me.
1:21.3	I don't have heat in my house right now.
1:24.0	So it's cold.
1:26.2	I have a little space heater going, but it's like 20 degrees outside. There's
1:29.6	literally snow on the ground. You're really roughing it over there. Your little house in the prairie
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