Hey there podcast listeners, I'm here with a very quick heads up before we start today's

show.

Our co-workers over at Cereal have a new podcast and what they're doing is they're going

back to what they did in their very first season without not until you add story.

They are looking into a murder.

This time the reporter is Kim Barker and she looks into this case that she's known about

since she was a teenager in Lyrami, Wyoming.

And what's remarkable about this series?

What really feels like nothing else Cereal is done or really I think anybody has done

is you just get to hear Kim who's this pure surprise winning reporter just methodically

going from person to person to person, source to source.

First just to figure out if this is a story and if there's a chance that she's going

to find out something of interest and then to piece together bit by bit what really

happened.

And you just hear her work these interviews one after another with this directness

and coreheadedness that's just really something to hear.

And she ends up at this place she did not expect.

I remember Joyce Knighter who runs Cereal and who ran this American life with me for

years and years told me that when she listened earlier on to just this long, long, very rough

cut of the interviews like no narration, no music, no nothing.

She was like if we can make a series that feels like that listening experience it'll

be a new feeling for a podcast to have.

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