639. Globe Skepticism, the Cosmology Crisis, and the Truth Behind ET Disclosure w/ Mark Gober
The Life Stylist
Luke Storey
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 9 December 2025
⏱️ 137 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we explore two of the most mind-bending and controversial topics of our time: the nature of the cosmos and the truth behind so-called “contact.” These themes—drawn from Mark Gober’s books An End to the Upside Down Cosmos and An End to Upside Down Contact—take us straight into the heart of scientific assumptions, cultural conditioning, and what it really means to seek truth in a world built on inherited narratives.
Mark and I dig into why foundational claims about cosmology, physics, and even medicine may not be supported by direct evidence, and how easily our collective worldview can be shaped by unexamined premises. From the Big Bang, dark matter, and the globe model to NASA imagery, eclipses, and observational anomalies, we break down what can actually be verified—and what cannot. The goal isn’t to replace one belief system with another, but to follow a disciplined, evidence-based approach that challenges dogma on all sides.
We also explore why questioning these topics triggers such strong reactions. Mark explains how career investment, identity, compartmentalization, and cultural reinforcement keep people aligned with consensus models—even when contradictions are hiding in plain sight. The conversation moves beyond physics into consciousness, spirituality, and the possibility that confusion about where we live may be part of a much larger, long-running strategy to disconnect humanity from its inherent power. If you’re curious, skeptical, or simply hungry for deeper clarity in a world drowning in assumptions, this episode will challenge your perspective in the best possible way.
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MORE ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
(00:00:00) Kicking Off the Deep Dive into Cosmos & Contact
(00:35:29) The Motives Behind Cosmic Misdirection
(00:46:12) The “Seeing Too Far” Problem & Other Observable Anomalies
(01:05:40) The Antarctica Puzzle & Why Exploration Restrictions Matter
(01:30:42) Interdimensional Beings, UAPs, & the Consciousness Puzzle
(02:00:07) Following the Muse, Spiritual Discernment, & Not Getting Duped
Resources:
• Website: markgober.com
• Instagram: instagram.com/markgober_author
• Facebook: facebook.com/markgoberauthor...
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| 0:00.0 | I thought I was well educated, went to Princeton, worked in investment banking in New York, worked in Silicon Valley, |
| 0:05.0 | and I was coming across scientific evidence, like declassified documents from the CIA talking about remote viewing. |
| 0:10.0 | People you've never met, and who may even be thousands of miles away, |
| 0:14.0 | and literally see through their eyes so vividly that you can describe precisely what they're looking at. |
| 0:20.0 | It's called remote viewing. |
| 0:22.5 | Psychic spying, near-death experiences, and it's like the bigger picture is that we're in some |
| 0:27.3 | kind of multidimensional, who knows what, spiritual war, he was working on sex rituals in the desert |
| 0:32.8 | to try to summon the Antichrist. If one wanted to hide God, let's say, or the higher creative intelligence, |
| 0:38.8 | creating confusion about where we live would be very important. It creates this sense of inner |
| 0:42.6 | disorientation. And then it's probably easier to fool people in other ways. The Nag Hammadi |
| 0:47.2 | scriptures, these were found in 1945, bound books and jars in Egypt. And they're allegedly from |
| 0:52.9 | a few hundred years after Jesus. They were |
| 0:54.7 | translated in the 1970s. And they talk about creation stories about what this place is. The basic |
| 0:59.4 | version goes like this. So last time you were here, I had like 50 of your books on the table. |
| 1:14.7 | And I had this ambitious idea that we would, which we did touch on each of these massive topics that you write about and you're the end of the upside down |
| 1:21.1 | enter a blank. And we did that, but I remember halfway through the conversation, which by the way, |
| 1:26.7 | folks, that was |
| 1:27.6 | episode 561. |
| 1:30.6 | And today's show notes, where we will link to his prior parents, will be Luke story.com |
| 1:35.4 | slash Mark Gober 2. |
| 1:39.3 | But I remember halfway through that episode being like, yeah, this is way too ambitious, |
| 1:44.1 | Luke. |
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