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The Holy Post

638: Keep Christianity Weird & Lessons from the Church Abuse Scandal with Kristen Kobes Du Mez

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2024

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Being a cultural Christian used to be an insult, but more people are embracing the label with pride. The Holy Post crew unpacks what’s behind the growing affection for cultural Christianity, and they explain why it’s more important than ever to embrace the weird, supernatural beliefs of the faith. Historian Kristen Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss her new documentary, “For Our Daughters,” about the sexual abuse scandals that have shaken the faith of many in the church. She sees a link between the theology and culture that created and covered-up sexual abuse in the church, and the rise of political idolatry within evangelicalism. Also this week—hurricanes are now political, and a Haitian pastor in New Hampshire with a sense of humor invites pets to his church.

 

For Our Daughters Full Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkES4X_qb6c

 

Holy Post Plus:

Getting Schooled: Debt and Theology 101

https://www.patreon.com/posts/113616129/

 

0:00 - Intro

 

1:18 - Show Starts

 

3:24 - Theme Song

 

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7:18 - Terry Gilliam’s News of the Butt

 

10:30 - Haitian Priest Blesses Pets

 

15:05 - Hurricane Helene

 

23:02 - Cultural Christianity Michael Bird Article 

 

34:58 - Why Christian Beliefs are Necessary for Christian Virtue

 

53:47 - Sponsor - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to https://www.nae.org/introduction-difficult-conversations-podcast-series/ to check it out!

 

54:53 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at https://www.faithfulcounseling.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off

 

56:00 - Interview

 

1:02:26 - How Women are Blamed for Men’s Sins

 

1:08:47 - Are Churches Better Prepared to Address Sexual Abuse?

 

1:14:54 - Is the Culture More Likely to Call Out Abuse Now?

 

1:18:17 - The Link Between January 6 and Sexual Abuse Scandals

 

1:24:04 - Will There Be a Church Backlash if Kamala Wins?

 

1:29:04 - End Credits  

 

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Haitian Priest Blesses Pets:

https://religionnews.com/2024/10/06/in-new-hampshire-a-haitian-priest-blesses-animals-defeating-internet-pet-eating-rumors-with-laughter/

 

Disaster Relief for Hurricane Helene:

https://www.bpr.org/bpr-news/2024-09-28/list-ways-to-donate-and-help-flood-victims-in-western-north-carolina-after-hurricane-helene

 

The Rise of Cultural Christianity:

https://michaelfbird.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-cultural-christianity?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=313362&post_id=148631936&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=6smb2&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

 

Other resources:

 

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

 

Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus

 

Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

 

Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Holy Post.

0:02.0

Being a cultural Christian used to be an insult,

0:05.0

but more people are embracing the label with pride.

0:08.0

Today we unpack what's behind the growing affection for cultural Christianity

0:12.0

and why it's more important than ever to

0:14.3

embrace the weird supernatural beliefs of the faith.

0:18.2

Then historian Kristen Cobes-Doume is back to discuss her new documentary for our daughters about the sexual abuse scandals

0:25.0

that have shaken the faith of many in the church.

0:27.8

She sees a link between the theology and culture that created these scandals and the rise of political idolatry within evangelicalism.

0:35.4

Also this week, hurricanes are now political and a Haitian pastor in New Hampshire with a sense of humor

0:41.8

invites pets to his church.

0:44.3

Remember we've launched a series of Holy Post events all around the country this fall and the next one is happening

0:49.6

this Saturday, October 12th in Chicago.

0:52.8

Phil Caitlin and I will be joined by Pastor Charlie Dates

0:56.2

to record a live show that you can be a part of.

0:58.9

And if you can't make that show in Chicago,

1:01.1

there are a bunch of other Holy Post events happening in other parts of the country.

1:05.5

All of them are brought to you by the Litvin Divinity School at Wheaton College.

1:09.9

To learn more and to get tickets, go holy post dot com slash events all right here is

1:15.6

episode 638 hey there welcome back to the like post podcast this is Phil Vissure

1:20.9

we are recording again live but not live to you, but we're live while we're recording from various places. I got Sky Jotani in downtown Wheaton, Illinois, epicenter of Northern Evangelicalism.

1:36.3

I got Caitlin Shess dialing in from a suburb of Denver from a very cool looking hotel room.

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