637: Your Church is Too American with Steve Bezner
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 2 October 2024
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary
Steve Bezner, a pastor in Houston, had a troubling realization—his people were being shaped more by social media, YouTube, and cable news than by the Bible, and their views of money, sex, and power looked more American than Christian. He talks with Kaitlyn about his new book, “Your Jesus Is Too American,” and how being more relational than organizational may be the first step toward healing our churches. Also this week, are American evangelicals going through the five stages of grief? If so, what does it mean to accept our loss of cultural influence? For the first time, new data says Gen Z men are more religious than Gen Z women. Why are young women leaving the church and why are young men coming? Plus, now even gorillas are addicted to smartphones.
0:00 - Intro
1:46 - Show Starts
2:52 - Theme Song
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5:20 - Kohl’s Makes Decisions Easier
6:28 - Gorillas Getting Too Much Screentime at the Zoo!
11:42 - Accepting Lost Evangelical Influence
18:07 - Collaborating as Political Minorities
31:42 - Are Young Men Taking Over the Church?
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53:37- Interview
59:10 - How We’ve Failed to Disciple People About Sex
1:06:48 - Prophetic Politics
1:13:50 - Church Pain
1:19:36 - Community Service in the Church
1:28:38 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Gorillas and Screen Time
https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/zoos-gorillas-screen-time-phones-videos-e88531a7
The Acceptance Stage of Lost Evangelical Influence
America’s Young Men Are Falling Even Further Behind
https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/young-american-men-lost-c1d799f7
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. |
| 0:02.0 | Steve Besner, a pastor in Houston, had a troubling realization. |
| 0:06.4 | His people were being shaped more by social media, YouTube, and cable news than by the Bible. |
| 0:12.0 | And their views of money, sex, and power looked way more American than |
| 0:15.5 | Christian. He talks with Caitlin this week about his new book, Your Jesus is Too American. |
| 0:21.6 | And how being more relational than organizational may be the first step toward |
| 0:25.7 | healing our churches. |
| 0:27.6 | Also this week, are American evangelicals going through the five stages of grief? |
| 0:32.0 | And if so, what does it mean for us to accept |
| 0:34.5 | our loss of cultural influence? |
| 0:36.9 | And for the first time, new data says |
| 0:38.8 | that Gen Z men are more religious than Gen Z women? |
| 0:43.0 | Why are young women leaving the church and why are young men coming? |
| 0:47.0 | Plus, guerrillas are addicted to smartphones. |
| 0:50.0 | I've got two announcements before today's show. |
| 0:52.0 | First, we are recording an upcoming |
| 0:54.7 | Holy Post episode live with a studio audience here in Chicago on October 12th. |
| 1:00.0 | It will be me, Caitlin, and Phil, along with our special guest, Pastor Charlie Dates. |
| 1:06.0 | If you'd like to be part of the live taping, be sure to get a ticket today at holy post.com slash events. |
| 1:12.0 | And second, holy Post media is producing a series of explainer videos leading up to the election. |
| 1:18.0 | Each video deals with an issue or misunderstanding related to how Christians engage the public square and |
| 1:24.2 | they feature some of your favorite holy post media voices like Caitlin Chesse |
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