It's time for episode 637 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay recorded Monday, December 29th,

2025,

clockwise, two hosts, one tech topic, less than 30 minutes. Welcome back to Clock.

Don't adjust your podcast player.

If things sound a little different, it's because we're going a bit off script.

My name is Dan Moore, and I am joined as always by

my co-host, the fabulous, the fantastic, the festive Micah Sargent. How are you doing today, Micah?

I'm doing well. I am in a diaper. Baby New Year. Baby New Year, right. Yeah, I put that together,

but I'm also, we're potty training my kids. So I guess conservation. One less diaper, one more diaper. Um, conservation. Enough diapers. Diapers cannot be created or destroyed. Only changed form. All right. We're, we're wackier than usual. This is odd. I know. We don't usually do sort of off-format episodes, but let me explain a little bit what we're doing here. It's the last episode of the year. One thing that we have started doing this year, as we've told you about several times, is we have our extra unwound segment. If you are a member of Clockwise,

which means you go to Relay.fm.

clockwise,

you sign up for $7 a month or $7 a year,

which of course helps support the show,

then not only do you get ad free episodes of clockwise,

but you get the extra unwound segment,

which comes at the end of the main show.

And that's a segment where Mike and I discuss a tech topic in some more depth.

Sometimes it's something spawned by what we talked about on the show with our guests.

Sometimes it's just something that's, you know, we're interested in or something that has

happened to one of us recently. So, you know, it's just a chance for the two of us to talk a little

bit more without the time limits of the usual clockwise episode. And so we wanted to give you a taste of that as we at the end of the year here. This is the kind of thing that you will get if you sign up to support the show and you get that unwound segment. It's going to sound. It's a little bit looser. It's a little bit more fun.

Um, not a little bit more fun.

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