You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

currency, Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Jordi, Visser, thank you for joining me.

Good to be here, Marty.

As I was saying, I've been a big fan of your weekly updates.

I think you're on top of converging trends better than most people right now, particularly as it pertains to AI, Bitcoin, broader crypto, and how it's

actually affecting the markets right now. And I think a good jumping off point for this

conversation is something that you've been talking about a lot, which is this dislocation

between leading economic indicators and which

actually happening in the sense that many indicators that people have been depending on for decades

seem to be sending off alarm bells that things may not all be well. But I think your thesis is that

AI is having an overwhelming effect on the market that is making those what have been dependable indicators independentable right now.

Yeah, it's actually interesting.

I'm going to, I'll go backwards a little bit so people can understand the rationale behind it because I think

it's one of the more important points and there's a jumping off point where I really

started to recognize.

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