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Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

636 - Theo Von (Reboot of Ep 342)

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

This conversation was originally recorded in September, 2018, when Theo was famous, but not yet FAMOUS. We talked about his recent trip to China, whether mental health issues can be considered a luxury, the ethics of sleeping with married women, Louis CK’s fall from grace, obscure masturbation techniques, and the strangeness of fame. The main thing I felt re-listening to this conversation was just how real Theo was/is. He seems to instinctively understand the power of vulnerability. No pretense with this guy.

Intro music “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range. “Big Time,” by Peter Gabriel. Outro: “Party at the End of the World,” by Carsie Blanton.



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0:00.0

Radio Mano, Papa Chango Hello everybody.

0:30.2

Welcome to another edition of tangentially speaking.

0:33.8

Episode, I guess, not edition.

0:36.4

Whatever the fuck.

0:37.7

This episode is with Theo Vaughn.

0:40.8

It's a reboot.

0:42.4

I first recorded this with Theo way back in the day when I was living in Topanga Canyon,

0:49.7

which is now either on fire or feared to be about to burn.

0:59.2

Fuck. What the hell, man?

1:04.5

It's both incredibly real and seemingly totally not real from my perspective.

1:22.3

Incredibly real because I know these places.

1:25.0

I mean, I see these news reports, the PCH, I used to drive up and down the PCH

1:31.0

pretty much every day between my place in Topanga and my parents' place in Culver City.

1:39.5

I know all those places. I used to stop and get groceries at Ralph's at the corner of, I guess, was sunset and the PCH. It's gone.

1:54.0

My aunt's house, one of my aunts who lived in Pacific Palisades since 1970 in the same house, that house is dust.

2:06.1

My other aunt's place in Topanga Canyon is up in the air.

2:13.7

We don't know what's going on there.

2:16.3

So it's so real. And yet, because I'm sitting in

2:22.9

Colorado on a cold, windless, snowy day, it's beyond my capacity of imagination to really understand what's going on.

2:41.8

It's kind of like, you know, I think I talked about this a couple months ago when my friend

2:47.3

Brian died.

2:49.7

It's like something huge has happened, but the immediate effects on my day-to-day

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