636: (Solo) The Facebook Ads Metrics That Actually Matter When Scaling

The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan

Nathan Chan

Entrepreneurship, Business, Marketing

4.9 • 664 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Most founders think scaling Facebook ads is about finding one winning ad and spending more behind it. But that's not how it works — especially not anymore. Here's the truth: the brands that scale obsess over the numbers. Not just ROAS. Not just conversion rate. And definitely not just the data inside Facebook Ads Manager. They understand the full picture — from traffic to creative to business economics. And after watching Nick Shackelford scale a brand from $20K/day to $250K/day in ad spend in just 45 days, I know exactly which metrics separate the operators from the marketers. In this episode, I break down the core metrics you need to watch like a hawk if you want to scale profitably. This is what we teach inside Foundr Operators, and it's the difference between burning cash and building a real, scalable business. Here's what you'll take away: The three buckets of metrics every operator tracks: traffic, creative & conversion, and business & profit Why CPM, CTR, and CPC are your leading indicators — and what to do when they're off How your offer impacts every metric from click-through rate to conversion rate Why MER (marketing efficiency ratio) is a better metric than ROAS for understanding true profitability The fatal mistake: scaling at 2x ROAS without knowing your margins, shipping costs, or contribution margin How doubling your landing page conversion rate can literally cut your CAC in half The operator's mindset: tracking blended ROAS, break-even points, and lifetime value — not just platform-reported metrics If you're stuck wondering why your ads aren't scaling, flying blind without an agency you trust, or hitting a ceiling at $20-30K/month, this episode will show you exactly what to fix. If you're loving this solo series, I'd love to hear your feedback. Email me directly at nathan@foundr.com — I read every reply. Hope you enjoy it. SAVE 50% ON OMNISEND FOR 3 MONTHS Get 50% off your first 3 months of email and SMS marketing with Omnisend with the code FOUNDR50. Just head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://your.omnisend.com/foundr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get started. HOW WE CAN HELP YOU SCALE YOUR BUSINESS FASTER Learn directly from 7, 8 & 9-figure founders inside Foundr+ Start your $1 trial → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.foundr.com/startdollartrial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ PREFER A CUSTOM ROADMAP AND 1-ON-1 COACHING? → Starting from scratch? Apply here → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foundr.com/pages/coaching-start-application⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ → Already have a store? Apply here → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foundr.com/pages/coaching-growth-application⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CONNECT WITH NATHAN CHAN Instagram → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/nathanchan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanhchan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FOUNDR FOR MORE BUSINESS GROWTH STRATEGIES YouTube → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/2uyvzdt⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.foundr.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/foundr/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/foundr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/foundr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/foundr/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcast → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.foundr.com/podcast⁠

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0:46.2	let's jump back into the show.
0:48.5	Hey Founder fam, Nathan here. Welcome back to another founder to founder episode. So guys, if you're running
0:56.8	Facebook ads or thinking about diving into them or you're stuck, wondering why things aren't
1:01.1	scaling, this episode is for you. Now over the past decade at founder and now, especially
1:07.4	through our new product founder operators operators which is a membership where we
1:11.7	have Nick Shackleford as one of our operators in residence I've had the chance to
1:16.7	see behind the scenes of hundreds of director consumer brands and let me tell
1:20.8	you the ones that scale they all have one thing in common they obsess over their
1:25.0	numbers like Nick you know he's a partner at Bres and he's taking that
1:28.4	business from zero to 70 million US dollars in two years. He was showing me a brand that he was
1:34.2	working with. He's only been working with them for 45 days and he scaled them from $20,000 a day
1:40.8	in paid advertising spend. That's US dollars, 20,000 a day to 200 to 250, sometimes 300,000 US dollars a day.
1:51.6	And one thing I've found is, you know, he is so big on knowing the metrics.
1:57.0	And it's not just ROAS, it's not just conversion rates. It's definitely not just the data you see
2:03.7	in the Facebook ads manager. It's about understanding the full picture from traffic to creative
2:08.9	to your business economics. So today I really want to break that down for you. Those core metrics
2:14.0	you need to watch like a hawk if you want to scale your Facebook ads.
2:18.5	And if you are interested in working with us and applying to our founder operator's membership,
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