635. What They Hid About MK Ultra - Professor David Nutt
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Andrew Gold
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🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:31.3 | I was once the government's drugs are, and I was sacked. |
| 0:36.3 | Hoffman's boss was a German chemist with allegiances to the Nazis. |
| 0:39.3 | So Hoffman's boss gave the Nazis the first LSD. The Americans didn't really know about this until they got to Dachau. |
| 0:43.3 | They just opened the suitcase, several million dollars, and so they got it. |
| 0:48.3 | And they took it back. |
| 0:49.3 | The idea was you would get Russians and you would give them LSD and they'd turn into God-fearing, card-carrying, flag-waving Americans. |
| 0:56.4 | M.K. Ultra was about the military. They were experimenting not just with using psychedelics to facilitate indoctrination, |
| 1:04.0 | but of course they were also interested in psychedelic weapons of war. You're going about your daily life and then someone who the feud with LSD and you think you're mad. |
| 1:11.6 | Most of the records were destroyed. |
| 1:13.6 | Plato, Aristotle and Cicero, virtually every great mind in the ancient world, |
| 1:16.6 | went through something called the Elysinian Mysteries. |
| 1:18.6 | I would argue that actually the psychedelic experience was actually one of the triggers of the foundation of West Inc. |
| 1:25.6 | So you're almost suggesting that one would have to be high to come up with something like |
| 1:29.2 | democracy? |
| 1:30.1 | Yes, yeah, indeed. |
| 1:31.9 | Is there any part of you that's also going, well, maybe there is something else out there |
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