Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast.

I'm your host, Cathergance's Apologist and Speaker, Trent Horn.

In today's episode, I want to share with you a dialogue that I had with an Eastern Orthodox

Apologist, Craig Trulia.

And so Craig and I sat down not to talk about something we fundamentally disagree about,

like let's say the papacy.

But to talk about something where we have fundamental agreement, substantive agreement.

And that is why we both are not Protestant.

Sometimes when I sit down with Protestants, I'll ask them, why are you Protestant?

Not just why aren't you Catholic, but why are you Protestant?

And I've noticed a lot of times the answers will be, I'm Protestant because I'm not Catholic.

I'll talk about this more in my forthcoming book when Protestants argue like atheists,

because I feel like that this is kind of an illicit shifting of the burden of proof.

I've talked about that before here on the podcast because I'll ask them, well, why, yeah,

why are you Protestant and all here?

Well, I don't believe in the papacy or I don't believe in the dogma of the assumption of Mary.

Okay, well, why wouldn't you be Eastern Orthodox then if your big concern is, let's say,

the papacy or the dogma of the assumption of Mary?

Because in the Eastern Church, you have long-standing traditions about Mary's door mission, for

example, things like that.

And then I'll ask them and I get these very light answers.

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