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And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

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He's an actor. He's a comedian and he'll make you thank.

This is David C. Smalley.

Yeah, you didn't know. He's an actor. He's a comedian. That's right. People listen to the show and go, comedy, I'm not hearing it.

I don't hear any funnies. You're talking about heavy stuff like schizophrenia and abortion and arguing about slavery in the Bible.

This isn't comedy, what's wrong with this guy?

I kind of live two lives, it's weird. You know people are starting to know me on the comedy scene.

He go, oh I'm a big fan, I love your stand-up, I've seen you do a couple of sets at the

improv and at the comedy store. And then they're like like I'd love to check out your

podcast and I'm like no you wouldn't no you wouldn't no you wouldn't none of

this goes on there and then people hear the podcast know me as this, you know,

podcaster debating religious people or people with politics,

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